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Old 12-19-2005, 08:45 PM
Rooger Rooger is offline
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Default AA UTG - too weak tight?

I had raised the two hands before this one, but didn't bet the flop, as I missed and was out of position against 2 callers.
Is it too weak-tight to check-fold the turn? I think I'm drawing quite dead now, and I'd hate to get a call when I'm OOP.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero ($107.25)
MP ($145.22)
CO ($88.35)
Button ($43)
SB ($142.70)
BB ($105.49)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, MP calls $4, CO calls $4, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($13.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $11</font>, MP calls $11, CO folds.

Turn: ($35.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $15</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $50.50
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:47 PM
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Default Re: AA UTG - too weak tight?

the only realistic hand you are still beating is AK...fold here.
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:05 PM
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Default Re: AA UTG - too weak tight?

tough laydown but i think its the right move - all those damn broadways ruined your overpair [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

that's a shame
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:11 PM
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Default Re: AA UTG - too weak tight?

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I had raised the two hands before this one, but didn't bet the flop, as I missed and was out of position against 2 callers.


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Roger,
What was this hand you're mentioning? Can you post it?
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:12 PM
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the only realistic hand you are still beating is AK...fold here.

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Nice hand.
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: AA UTG - too weak tight?

I don't think this is nitty at all. You could easily be drawing dead, and villian likely has 2 pair or better.

Only hand you beat is AK, and I think he reraises preflop.
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:50 PM
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Default Re: AA UTG - too weak tight?

gol4pro,

I don't think AKo re-raises PF. JJ-AA, sure.
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Old 12-20-2005, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: AA UTG - too weak tight?

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Roger,
What was this hand you're mentioning? Can you post it?

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First one:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero ($100.40)
Button ($149.22)
SB ($99.35)
BB ($48)
UTG ($131.50)
MP ($105.49)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) calls $3.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($9) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7</font>, SB calls $7.

Turn: ($23) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($23) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.
Final Pot: $23

SB shows A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], and I take down the pot.

Second hand:

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Hero ($111.25)
CO ($149.22)
Button ($88.35)
SB ($47)
BB ($131.50)
UTG ($105.49)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, CO calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) calls $3.50, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($16) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($16) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $15.2</font>, Hero folds, CO folds, SB folds.

Final Pot: $31.20


The hands were not exactly as I remembered, only 1 after me on the second one - but with the many callers I got with my raise, and the calldown on the first hand, I didn't want to continuation bet the second.
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Old 12-20-2005, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: AA UTG - too weak tight?

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gol4pro,

I don't think AKo re-raises PF. JJ-AA, sure.

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I have one AKo hand from him in PT - he limped that UTG+1 (that was played later than these hands though), so a reraise is not certain at all.
His stats are around 50/15, but that was unknown at the time of the hand.
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