JJ facing utg push

#1 10-23-2005, 09:04 AM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (6 handed) converter

SB (t965)
BB (t510)
UTG (t895)
Hero (t1240)
CO (t985)
Button (t3405)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t895 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1240 (All-In)</font>,

UTG seems to know what he's doing and is probably pushing a fairly wide range.

edited to add: I should probably mention that I have pushed like 4 of the last 10 hands and am pretty sure that the big stack is just waiting to spite call me, which somewhat hurts my FE.

#2 10-23-2005, 10:20 AM

I don't quite get it. You think UTG is gonna be pushing a lot of hands, which you will most likely be ahead of. In addition, the BB is likely to be calling with all sorts of crap.

Where's the catch?

Doc · #3 10-23-2005, 10:26 AM

Ok, I am new to SNG's but here's my 2c:

The fact that you have someone who wants to make a spite call makes this even better. Since you have been pushing, this is a great hand for someone to try to look you up. I think the card advantage to your hand dramatically overcomes your loss of FE.

Sorry that you lost, but this looks like a great chance to double or triple up, and I am pushing every time.

Doc

#4 10-23-2005, 10:29 AM

The big stack will probably call with a pocket pair, AK or a hand already beating yours, and you're 53/45 over AKs, killing smaller pocket pairs and a big underdog to overpairs, the number of times you're behind preflop is miniscule. I'd push hoping to isolate but the big stack calling isn't that bad either, as if you win you're in great shape to win the whole tourney.

What buy-in is this tournament?

mosdef · #5 10-23-2005, 10:42 AM

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UTG seems to know what he's doing and is probably pushing a fairly wide range.

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if UTG knows what he is doing, he is not pushing a wide range of hands from UTG with four stacks yet to act that have him covered. i am pretty sure this is a suicidal push without a decent holding. mind you, he may be doing it with a pocket pair smaller than yours. at any rate, i would also reraise allin here, but i don't expect UTG to turn over K6o. i hope he turns over 77.

Hendricks433 · #6 10-23-2005, 11:13 AM

If he knows what hes doing... isnt he turning over AK, AQ or some PP? Probally not AA or KK. I hate JJ on bubble time. Do you want a coin flip here? I think he turns over big cards more than he turns over a low pp right?

mosdef · #7 10-23-2005, 11:22 AM

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If he knows what hes doing... isnt he turning over AK, AQ or some PP? Probally not AA or KK. I hate JJ on bubble time. Do you want a coin flip here? I think he turns over big cards more than he turns over a low pp right?

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IMO, I think he turns over PP more often than high cards, and overall you are stronger than a coinflip against his range (all PP and AQ+). Something like 63%, I would guess. If someone would do the actual math, that would be great. I'm only guessing.

#8 10-23-2005, 11:27 AM

Nobody considers folding this? If I call I’m most likely out of the tournament 30-35% of the time. If I win there are still 5 players left and I’m not the chip leader. My position is improved but it’s not a lock for anything.

By wide range I meant ~(KT, Ax, any pocket)+.

Buy-in was 20+2.

I don’t think I was clear on my last note in the original post. I’m not expecting a big stack overcall too often; I more meant it for future considerations. He is two to my left which means that I will have to somewhat tighten up my pushing range in the future.

valenzuela · #9 10-23-2005, 11:29 AM

My chips are on the middle.

#10 10-23-2005, 11:33 AM

Did I mention any results?

Fwiw, I wrote my last response before the two preceding it showed up.

Even after thinking about it I’m not sure which move I prefer. I guess I just hate putting all (or most) of my money in at this stage of the tournament with no FE.