7/8b hand 8

fnord_too · #1 11-09-2005, 04:24 PM

This line feels right to me (and catching the wheel is always nice).

What do you put villain on? Villain in this hand is sharp tools, who has struck me as a good player. (You've seen a lot of hands I have posted here so you know to take my assessment with a grain of salt [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] )

7 Card Stud High-Low ($10/$20), Ante $1, Bring-In $3 (converter)

3rd Street - (0.60 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 3: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 4: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 5: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in___raises
Seat 8: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___completes___calls

4th Street - (6.60 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___folds
Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets___raises
Seat 8: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___raises___calls

5th Street - (6.30 BB)

Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 8: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls

6th Street - (8.30 BB)

Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 8: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___calls

River - (10.30 BB)

Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 8: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx___checks___calls

Total pot: (12.30 BB)

bugstud · #2 11-09-2005, 06:14 PM

v standard buried aces makes most sense.

Beavis68 · #3 11-09-2005, 06:24 PM

yeah, a big pair in the hole

Bremen · #4 11-09-2005, 06:24 PM

4th street there is no reason to reraise. His most likely hands are trips or high pairs. Against high non ace/king pairs your edge is slight, but trips/aces have you at a big disadvantage.

bugstud · #5 11-09-2005, 07:05 PM

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4th street there is no reason to reraise. His most likely hands are trips or high pairs. Against high non ace/king pairs your edge is slight, but trips/aces have you at a big disadvantage.

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against a high pair he's got very good equity here.

Aaron W. · #6 11-09-2005, 07:28 PM

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4th street there is no reason to reraise. His most likely hands are trips or high pairs. Against high non ace/king pairs your edge is slight, but trips/aces have you at a big disadvantage.

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against a high pair he's got very good equity here.

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Is that true? It looks like a minor edge to me.

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1335993
pokenum -mc 500000 -7s8 ad 4h 2c 7h - qh qd 8h kc
7-card Stud Hi/Low 8-or-better: 500000 sampled outcomes
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
2c Ad 7h 4h 117586 117586 382413 1 362266 0 0 0.527
Kc Qd Qh 8h 90380 382413 117586 1 0 0 0 0.473

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http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1336000
pokenum -mc 500000 -7s8 ad 4h 2c 7h - as ac 8h kc
7-card Stud Hi/Low 8-or-better: 500000 sampled outcomes
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
2c Ad 7h 4h 68921 72243 427746 11 360070 2142 103 0.457
As Ac Kc 8h 111917 427746 72243 11 11594 20277 103 0.543
</pre><hr />

bugstud · #7 11-09-2005, 07:47 PM

kill the dead cards, it does change some stuff. note he's rarely hitting a brick pair because of the 742 deadness.

Annulus · #8 11-09-2005, 08:54 PM

nh

fnord_too · #9 11-09-2005, 09:01 PM

I'll post all the results tomorrow (if I can remember them). Villain did not have a big pair in the hole on this hand.

fnord_too · #10 11-10-2005, 10:28 AM

Villain had trip 8's in this hand. Maybe jamming 4th was bad, I am still trying to find the right level of aggression, and these games just aren't the jam sessions that Zee talks about in his book.