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Old 10-28-2005, 03:39 PM
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Default standards for staying pat oop against 1 card draw

What are your standards for staying pat out of position against a one card draw, assuming you bet and he calls? Also, what will you stay pat with going into the second draw, heads up? Obviously it depends on the situation, how smooth your draw is, etc., so take that into consideration.
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Old 10-28-2005, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: standards for staying pat oop against 1 card draw

If you're oop, how do you know it's a one card draw?
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Old 10-28-2005, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: standards for staying pat oop against 1 card draw

drawing one on the second draw.
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Old 10-28-2005, 05:42 PM
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Default Re: standards for staying pat oop against 1 card draw

I think it's an automatic decision with a 9 or a queen.

Beyond that, I take into account the quality of my draw and the craftiness of my opponent. Most people at 10/20 or lower won't try to freeze you on a draw. If they will, I'd prefer to be smoother.

Obviously, if I get raised, I have to reevaluate the situation.
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Old 10-28-2005, 05:57 PM
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Default Re: standards for staying pat oop against 1 card draw

What do you think about this idea, which I just thought of? Assuming you both drew 1 going into the second draw, let's say you have 8542J. How about checking into them, on the assumption that they'll bet a pat hand and probably check unimproved. Obviously you lose your fold equity and your ability to charge their draw, but I don't think I would feel particularly comfortable staying pat here under normal circumstances.
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Old 10-28-2005, 06:36 PM
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Default Re: standards for staying pat oop against 1 card draw

It's obvious that you have a jack and the villian will be able to play perfectly on the next round. It still might be worth doing, but you need to realize how obvious the play is.
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Old 10-28-2005, 08:08 PM
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I think it's an automatic decision with a 9 or a queen

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You lost me.
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Old 10-28-2005, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: standards for staying pat oop against 1 card draw

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I think it's an automatic decision with a 9 or a queen

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You lost me.

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You might keep a jack high or ten high, but you're never going to keep a queen.
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Old 10-28-2005, 09:13 PM
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oooohhhhh. It's a good thing I'm getting a masters. It's pretty clear I need more school.
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