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Old 11-14-2005, 05:48 PM
bigt439 bigt439 is offline
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Default $109... I wanna be a balla

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP2 (t1269)
MP3 (t1550)
CO (t972)
Button (t885)
SB (t1145)
Hero (t1050)
UTG (t404)
UTG+1 (t945)
UTG+2 (t860)
MP1 (t920)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP2 calls t30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls t30, Button calls t30, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t150) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t120</font>, MP2 calls t120, CO calls t120, Button folds, SB folds.

Turn: (t510) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t250</font>, CO calls t250, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ?</font>

Checked to see what went down, but I was likely c/r'ing a single bettor. Let 'er rip.
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Old 11-14-2005, 05:51 PM
HonchoOverload HonchoOverload is offline
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Default Re: $109... I wanna be a balla

CO looks like 98 or middle pair (possibly 88 or 99?). It doesn't smell like an overcall wiht a monster because with your check on the turn he's probably thinking he'll lose you with a call or a raise. And although I'm a little wary of a bottom set from MP2, I'm checkpushing TPTK in this situation.
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Old 11-14-2005, 05:51 PM
Kanchi Kanchi is offline
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Default Re: $109... I wanna be a balla

Folds very quickly.
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Old 11-14-2005, 05:53 PM
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Default Re: $109... I wanna be a balla

I think that someone HAS to have 22 or 77 here. There is one (reasonable) draw and the odds are just too long against 2 other players having weaker tens. JJ may be a possibility. That being said, I fold.
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Old 11-14-2005, 06:12 PM
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Default Re: $109... I wanna be a balla

you have to have reads, whether or not they are regulars or whatever b/c this hand is highly read dependent, a bad player in the CO might call with a 7, any 10, straight draw or only with hands that beat AT. i dont think pushing can be far too off.
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Old 11-14-2005, 06:16 PM
junkmail3 junkmail3 is offline
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Default Re: $109... I wanna be a balla

What do you think about a check-raise fold to a push on the flop here?

As for the turn, I think I could let it go.

Folding it won't kill you, and you'll be in for at least 500 if you call here.
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Old 11-14-2005, 06:22 PM
zambonidrivr zambonidrivr is offline
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Default Re: $109... I wanna be a balla

I think check raising is bad, as it leaves you zip and pip. Perhaps check raising all in is an option, but really.... why this move so early? You have plenty of FE left. Limped pots are tough and tough to put someone on a range here.

j
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Old 11-14-2005, 06:26 PM
EverettKings EverettKings is offline
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Default Re: $109... I wanna be a balla

On flops like this I prefer to check/raise or check/call/probably lead. If you just lead out the flop, if they call you're lost and can see a million bad turn cards, if they raise you're lost and can fold or play this pot for your whole stack.

Any spot where they know a lot about your hand and you know very little about theirs is not pretty. Especially out of position.

Everett
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Old 11-14-2005, 06:52 PM
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Default Re: $109... I wanna be a balla

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I was likely c/r'ing a single bettor.

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I like this line if it were a "single bettor;" however, you were called in two places with your flop bet and now there are still two left to act if you do raise. Any amount other than a push is bad imo.

With that in mind, what could mp2 have? he bet half the pot into 2 others? If he is taking a stab on a draw it is a bad stab. Sure, it could be a stab, but it could also be trips. Then the CO cold calls. Imo it looks like he either wants in in for the ride as he has trips, or he figures he has implied odds if his draw hits. My guess is one of them is on a draw and the other has trips. Imo there is no way they are both playing draws! one certainly has a bigger hand than you and will call your push.

Alas, 1 other and your check raise is good. Against 2 others not so much. Fold.

So what happened.

Ryan
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Old 11-14-2005, 09:57 PM
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Default Re: $109... I wanna be a balla

I like a check call flop and lead the turn here.
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