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Old 09-27-2005, 10:15 AM
jbird jbird is offline
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Default KK vs. crazy uber-aggression

Villian is crazy (90 hands). 80% VPIP and generally caps every street with just about anything -- usually shows down Ax, Kx, Qx, Jx.

UTG2 is a Donk (15 hands) who likes to call anything down because it is fun and maybe he can improve his hand on 6th street. Will actually raise if he ever hits anything -- so a call from him has so far meant that he has nothing.

So I was waiting for a big hand, hoping that they would both continue in their standard practices and then the following happens.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. MP1 posts a blind of $1.
2 folds , UTG+2 (Donk)/ calls, <font color="red"> MP1 raises</font>, 1 fold, MP3 <font color="blue"> (Villian) </font> calls, 3 folds, <font color="red"> Hero 3-bets</font>, Donk calls, MP1 calls, Villian calls.

-- Beautiful. At this point given who is in the pot with me I am very happy --

Flop: (12.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
<font color="red"> Hero bets</font>, Donk calls, MP1 calls, <font color="blue"> Villian raises</font>, <font color="red"> Hero 3-bets</font>, Donk calls, MP1 folds, <font color="blue"> Villian caps</font>, Hero calls, Donk calls.

-- OK happy to be rid of MP1, who was probably on AK or AQ or something. Really confused by Villian at this point. Is there a fold here? 44, 66, 77 are possible, but I was thinking something more like A7 or K7 or any 5. --

Turn: (12.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, Donk checks, <font color="blue"> Villian bets</font>, Hero calls, Donk calls.

-- Villians flop cap has me scared so I go into check call mode. I'm thinking that this is just dead wrong. If I make the decision that he is on something like A7 or A5 (which I did), I should still be getting as much money as possible into this pot. Thoughts? --

River: (15.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, Donk checks, <font color="blue"> Villian bets</font>, Hero calls, Donk calls.

-- There is the check call again. Now either one of these guys have made their hand if they have a 5 (which I thought was the case with Donk until he just called). Can I fold here? I'm thinking no way. --

Any advice on any street is much appreciated. This hand had me very confused and I think I misplayed it pretty badly after the flop.

Final Pot: 18.75 BB

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero has Kc Kh (one pair, kings).
Donk has 9h Jd (high card, jack).
Villian has 6s 5c (straight, eight high).
Outcome: Villian wins 18.75 BB. </font>
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Old 09-27-2005, 10:23 AM
jrz1972 jrz1972 is offline
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Default Re: KK vs. crazy uber-aggression

Given your read on villain, you should raise and cap the turn.

Slowing down on the river is okay.

Edit: Damn I just realized that you TWICE contemplated folding this hand. Folding anywhere would be terrible.
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Old 09-27-2005, 10:56 AM
pete shaw pete shaw is offline
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Default Re: KK vs. crazy uber-aggression

"Villian is crazy (90 hands). 80% VPIP and generally caps every street with just about anything -- usually shows down Ax, Kx, Qx, Jx."


Why did the cap scare you?

Bet, Raise, Reraise . . . Cap turn

River- adds one more to the straight. I think I raise, call if reraised, and hate myself in the morning.
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