$30/$60 hand for Andy B.

[Vehn]

$30/$60 canterbury 7ish handed. Famous 2+2 celebrity Andy B is in the game.

EP open raises. MP calls. LP calls. I call in the BB with .

Flop:



I bet, EP folds, MP folds, LP calls.

Turn:



I bet, LP raises. Now what?

Suppose I call. The river is:



Now what?

[Clarkmeister]

Turn: I "bet, LP raises. Now what?"

#1: What range of hands do you put him on?

River: "Now what?"

#2: See #1 There is no way you should be caught flatfooted when this card hits.




On the turn, I would put him on either a big king or a small set. The vast majority of players will raise the flop headsup with the flush draw. This means I am certainly calling the turn because my diamond is very likely to be clean and the pot is big.

On the river, you really catch your best card. Given the read of big King or a set, is this player the type to bet the river? I would suspect that he would bet the river with either holding, and go for a checkraise. The downside to this is that he may either 1. Not bet, or 2. Actually have a flush. Those reasons may make leading out the safer, though less sexy play. I think this one is entirely dependant on your specific opponent.

[Vehn]

I had never seen him before but seemed like the typical bit too loose bit too aggressive type. Call me Mason.

[Clarkmeister]

Then you checkraise.

[Ginogino]

Clark:
I really like your analysis and recommendation here.

Gino

[elysium]

hi vehn
it looks like a fold on the turn to me. what else could the LP have? your odds are poop; fold.

assuming that you mistakenly called, and the river produces an 8, there is a strong liklihood of your opponent betting again so check-call. no need to get fancy here. and if he is bluffing with a busted draw, your check will induce another bet.

[Andy B]

I had played with this guy a couple of times recently, and I would say that he is more than a little too loose and aggressive. He was also tilting. I don't want to comment further right now, except that I will say that I knew I'd be reading about this hand today. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Mikey]

I don't understand why you called the turn here?

How can you call the turn?

To me it looks like an easy fold on the turn.

Please someone explain to me why this thinking is wrong.

[Vehn]

If he has a small set I have 10 outs. If he has a big king without a diamond I have 11 outs.

[J.A.Sucker]

... and if he only has the singleton Ad, then you're in the lead. Loose and aggressive players will do this. You have an easy call on the turn. As for the river, I agree with Clark 100% - if you think he'll bet, then checkraise the river. Otherwise, betting out ain't bad.