flop play

PokerBob · #1 11-10-2005, 03:03 AM

yes or no? No one at the table is good.
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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets</font>, BB calls, UTG raises, MP folds, Hero..........yes/no/is it close either way?

flawless_victory · #2 11-10-2005, 03:05 AM

reraise.
not close.

BugsBunny · #3 11-10-2005, 03:08 AM

I like a 3 bet here. If nobody at the table is any good you'll probably get a free card on the turn, and there's lots of cards that you'll want to see the river with. Even if they have something like a set or made straight they'll probably check the turn trying to get you for a c/r.

PokerBob · #4 11-10-2005, 03:19 AM

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reraise.
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wow. this seems way bad to me.

joker122 · #5 11-10-2005, 03:32 AM

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reraise.
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wow. this seems way bad to me.

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seriously. it's def. not a fold, so it's between 3bet or call and 3betting seems reckless. it's at best close.

scotty34 · #6 11-10-2005, 03:54 AM

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reraise.
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wow. this seems way bad to me.

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so your "yes/no" was between folding and calling?? folding would certainly not even cross my mind here

jph0424 · #7 11-10-2005, 04:05 AM

I would never fold in this spot, the implied odds are just too good especially if the Q or backdoor flush hits. On the flop I think I would 3 bet because you have nice equity and are on the button.

Surfbullet · #8 11-10-2005, 04:18 AM

hey bob,

I just call here. Our equity isn't that great - a 7 will chop it for us sometimes, and we of course have to worry about tainted outs from the [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]s. I wouldn't count J outs very highly either...I'd like to see a turn card but i'm not keen on risking paying 4sb to get there, and maybe more...since players in this game loooove to cap their FDs for value.

Surf

Surfbullet · #9 11-10-2005, 04:19 AM

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hey fv,

did you read the beard to be a straight flush draw? An honest question. I think it's close with the weak OESD and flush redraws.

Surf

PokerBob · #10 11-10-2005, 04:21 AM

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On the flop I think I would 3 bet because you have nice equity and are on the button.

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I do not think i have a substantial equity edge here at all.