Did Phil Ivey implode..?Final table ESPN circuit event Take Tahoe - Page 4

Quicksilvre · #31 08-10-2005, 10:04 PM

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Ivey's play at the end head's up was just lame.

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...in the hands we saw. I've got no clue how he played overall.

TransientR · #32 08-10-2005, 10:12 PM

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Do you ever play freeze outs with your friends? Where maybe two or three of you know what you're doing and the other six don't? It always comes down to one of the guys who knows how to play vs. one of the guys who can't. And the guy who can play prods at the guy who can't, and if the donk doesn't roll over the player starts to get the look Phil Ivey had. Everyone else is outside getting drunk and laughing and this
donk keeps falling out of trouble. Pretty soon you don't care who wins and you just want to be done with it.

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Lissandro is not one of your Donk friends.

Frank

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But he hasn't been on TV over and over again, how could he possibly be good? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Yeah,

He can't be any good, he just makes more money at poker than many who do show up on TV [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Frank

sdplayerb · #33 08-10-2005, 10:17 PM

he didn't put him on an ace.
he put him on a hand that he couldn't call an allin with.

John Ho · #34 08-11-2005, 07:43 AM

If you're the chip leader like Lissandro was and you're shoving in lots of your chips against another chip leader with lots of short stacks still to be eliminated with an unimproved pair of 10s you are gonna regret it most of the time. These guys are playing for money not who never makes a mathematically incorrect fold.

fnurt · #35 08-11-2005, 11:17 AM

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If you're the chip leader like Lissandro was and you're shoving in lots of your chips against another chip leader with lots of short stacks still to be eliminated with an unimproved pair of 10s you are gonna regret it most of the time. These guys are playing for money not who never makes a mathematically incorrect fold.

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Be that as it may, Ivey has to think about the same issue when he sticks in all his chips against the one guy at the table who can bust him. It was a ballsy play, no question, but I don't think he would have made it if he knew the other guy had TT. I'm still not convinced it wasn't a little on the reckless side.

I won't criticize the laydown with TT but I don't think Ivey can COUNT on him making that laydown.

Fitz · #36 08-11-2005, 11:33 AM

I wondered if maybe they had cut a deal and he just wanted to get it over one way or the other.

Fitz

lozen · #37 08-11-2005, 11:55 AM

I just watched it last night via Bit torrent. Phil just never hits it seems. That late and and the outs no proble

How about the guy folding trip 10"s that was brutal

Quicksilvre · #38 08-11-2005, 01:08 PM

Could be. Rememeber, though, they played for three hours heads up, so it's not as if they made a deal right as it got to the final two.

troymclur · #39 08-11-2005, 01:29 PM

which torrent site did you find it at?

Hold'me · #40 08-11-2005, 02:19 PM

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Be that as it may, Ivey has to think about the same issue when he sticks in all his chips against the one guy at the table who can bust him. It was a ballsy play, no question, but I don't think he would have made it if he knew the other guy had TT. I'm still not convinced it wasn't a little on the reckless side.

I won't criticize the laydown with TT but I don't think Ivey can COUNT on him making that laydown.

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You think Phil wouldn't have made the all-in move if he was sure he didn't have the best hand? Anymore brilliant observations Captain obvious? Oh please do share.