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Old 12-16-2004, 11:19 PM
DontRaisePlz DontRaisePlz is offline
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Default Re: Report: Yankees acquire Johnson in three-team blockbuster

If the Yankees played in the same market as all other teams did, this would be a horrible deal for them.

Im not even sure Baseball America should bother acknowleging their farm, why not just split Milwaukee or LA in half and rank one half at the botton.
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Old 12-16-2004, 11:24 PM
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Default Re: Report: Yankees acquire Johnson in three-team blockbuster

I'm disgusted. I like javy, and those 2 prospects. Im so sick of them, I really understand how everyone hates the yanks.

Go Brewers!

edit: I'm really a huge lifelong yanks fan. But this still sucks.
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Old 12-16-2004, 11:26 PM
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Default Re: Report: Yankees acquire Johnson in three-team blockbuster

Damn it! I own Navarro in my rotisserie league.
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Old 12-16-2004, 11:35 PM
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Default Re: Report: Yankees acquire Johnson in three-team blockbuster

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I'm disgusted. I like javy, and those 2 prospects. Im so sick of them, I really understand how everyone hates the yanks.

Go Brewers!

edit: I'm really a huge lifelong yanks fan. But this still sucks.

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Dude WTF? You hate this why, because it helps them win a World Series next year. I mean are you just not a Randy Johnson fan or what? Or do you just want some perpetually rebuilding team that always has "great prospects". If so, than yeah root for the Brewers I guess.
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Old 12-16-2004, 11:51 PM
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Default Re: Report: Yankees acquire Johnson in three-team blockbuster

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I'm disgusted. I like javy, and those 2 prospects. Im so sick of them, I really understand how everyone hates the yanks.

Go Brewers!

edit: I'm really a huge lifelong yanks fan. But this still sucks.

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Dude WTF? You hate this why, because it helps them win a World Series next year. I mean are you just not a Randy Johnson fan or what? Or do you just want some perpetually rebuilding team that always has "great prospects". If so, than yeah root for the Brewers I guess.

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Vazquez (28) was really bad in the second half of last season. But, Johnson (41) is just a short term upgrade. Vazquez could have been a good pitcher for many years to come.

Career Stats
YEAR TM GM STARTS IP W L SV ERA WHP R ER H BB K
2004 NYY 32 32 198.0 14 10 0 4.91 1.29 114 108
2003 MON 34 34 230.2 13 12 0 3.24 1.11 93 83 198
2002 MON 34 34 230.1 10 13 0 3.91 1.27 111 100
2001 MON 32 32 223.2 16 11 0 3.43 1.08 92 85 197
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Old 12-16-2004, 11:55 PM
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Default Re: Report: Yankees acquire Johnson in three-team blockbuster

I don't disagree but I think Johnson gives The Yankees the best chance to win this year, which is what they are built for. I like Vasquez but if getting Johnson finally puts them back on top than it is an easy price to pay. I also estatic that they apparently were able to make the deal and keep Gordon.
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Old 12-17-2004, 12:06 AM
DontRaisePlz DontRaisePlz is offline
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Default Re: Report: Yankees acquire Johnson in three-team blockbuster

Vazquez is going from the AL East to the NL West with a very good Dodger defense and a reputable pitcher's park.

Also, he is going to work with Jim Colborn rather than that hack Mel Stottlemeyer (honestly, name one pitcher who has considerably improved under his watch. Even Clemens seemed rather average at times in New York)

He will end up suprising some...
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Old 12-17-2004, 12:10 AM
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Default Re: Report: Yankees acquire Johnson in three-team blockbuster

Dynasty summed it up nicely. But also Navarro would have been a nice replacement for Jorge in a few years. I like my teams because I like my team and it's players. It would be nice to have a few homegrowns on the team (which is what the core has been all these years) instead of a team of Jeter and 10 35 yr olds making 15M a year on loan. I'd rather the yankees build up and make another run, then win this year, and have the same damn problems next year.

And as a fan of baseball it really is gross that the Yanks payroll will exceed 200M this year.

Also being a Jets and Knicks fan I have a problem with management that does all it can to win.
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Old 12-17-2004, 12:27 AM
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Default The Rotation

Assuming all deals are finalized The Yankee starting rotation looks pretty good

1.R. Johnson
2.M. Mussina
3.K.Brown
4.C.Pavano
5.J.Wright

I'm disgruntled that Lieber won't be around after but it looks strong enough to me if (IF) everyone stays healthy
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Old 12-17-2004, 12:36 AM
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Default Re: Report: Yankees acquire Johnson in three-team blockbuster

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Also being a Jets and Knicks fan I have a problem with management that does all it can to win.

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Hehehehe.

I'll go out on a limb to predict a mildly 'off' season for Johnson next year. By that I just mean that he'll go 17-11 or something like that with a 3.4 ERA. 'Off' compared to the mind-blowing numbers of NL... I think people forget how insanely good some of the hitting is in the AL East...

Although Schilling made the switch and did great, and Johnson was over here before. So we'll see.

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