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Old 07-14-2005, 02:37 PM
Newt_Buggs Newt_Buggs is offline
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Default Top pair from the blinds played poorly

***** Hand History for Game 2361456695 *****
30/60 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 13920971) - Thu Jul 14 04:10:20 EDT 2005
Table Table 12122 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: Kreative (1005)
Seat 3: valgos (1020)
Seat 4: beachdig (1530)
Seat 5: san624 (3830)
Seat 7: NewtBuggs (775)
Seat 8: VoodooAA (1380)
Seat 10: Thom_York (460)
NewtBuggs posts small blind (15)
VoodooAA posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to NewtBuggs [ As, 8d ]
Thom_York folds.
Kreative calls (30)
valgos folds.
beachdig folds.
san624 folds.
NewtBuggs calls (15)
VoodooAA checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ac, 9c, 3s ]
NewtBuggs checks.
VoodooAA checks.
Kreative bets (45)
NewtBuggs raises (150) to 150
VoodooAA folds.
Kreative calls (105)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6s ]
NewtBuggs checks.
Kreative bets (150)
NewtBuggs calls (150)
** Dealing River ** : [ 2s ]
NewtBuggs checks.
Kreative bets (445)
NewtBuggs calls (445)
NewtBuggs is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $1580 with NewtBuggs

PP $55, no reads
comments on every street welcome. I played this quite poorly but I'm not quite sure where exactly it went wrong. I just sort of got sucked in deaper on every street. I felt like folding to the weak bet on the flop wasn't an option, and I couldn't just call so I raised. When he smooth called i had no idea what was going on so I figured that I would check again without blindly putting chips in. His turn bet seemed to show weakness, but maybe this was my chance to dump it. On the river I checked because I figured that pushing would only get action by hands that had me beat. The flush was out which I highly doubt that he had, so I guessed that the chances that he was bluffing was quite high since I doubted that someone with with a higher kicker or even two pair would push here.
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Old 07-14-2005, 02:43 PM
Unarmed Unarmed is offline
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Default Re: Top pair from the blinds played poorly

Play it for value or take the lead and play it aggressively. (but check the flop of course)
Half and half doesn't work here. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
There's really nothing wrong with check/folding this either. The river's a long way away against a LAG.
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Old 07-14-2005, 02:55 PM
durron597 durron597 is offline
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Default Re: Top pair from the blinds played poorly

Lead turn, fold to raise.
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Old 07-14-2005, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: Top pair from the blinds played poorly

i would have bet out on turn. if he called, i check/call on the river.
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Old 07-14-2005, 06:33 PM
Bigwig Bigwig is offline
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Default Re: Top pair from the blinds played poorly

I like to check/call this flop to reasonable action. And I'm potentially letting it go if things get heavy on 4th street.
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Old 07-14-2005, 06:35 PM
Deuce2High Deuce2High is offline
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Default Re: Top pair from the blinds played poorly

In a 3-way pot I'm definatly leading for about 60 on the flop. If I don't take it down there I'll check the turn and call bets on the turn/river if they are not big (around half the pot or so in general). I'm also probably laying down to any bet not giving me a good price if another club comes.

I can't check this flop though 3-way. I also think a checkraise makes the pot way to huge. I prefer to keep pots small.
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Old 07-14-2005, 06:51 PM
nokona13 nokona13 is offline
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Default Re: Top pair from the blinds played poorly

I'd just lead the flop. Maybe 75 with the pot at 90. If you get raised, hopefully you have some kind of read on whether or not he'd do this with like T9 or a club draw, and then call or fold according to the price he's giving you and the odds you think he's got a better ace. Like Deuce2High said, the c/r is designed to get more money in the pot than you think you can get by leading (usually), so why checkraise with TP7K? As played, I think I'd try to lead the turn, as many weak players will check/raise the flop and lead the turn with big hands, say trips, though he'd have to either be a total idiot or think you were one to think you check trips three way with a flush draw out there and no pre-flop raiser to raise it up.
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