River bluff raise

NLSoldier · #1 11-09-2005, 04:42 AM

Ive been running good (for a change!) and shown down some good hands as well as some thin value bets/raises.

BB is loose passive, utg just sat and posted so hes obviously a tard, sb seems fairly typical, maybe a little loose passive.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $10.
UTG (poster) checks, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG calls, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls.

River: (12 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises

New001 · #2 11-09-2005, 04:45 AM

Doesn't a large portion of UTG's hands consist of weak/mediocre tens? If he's an UTG posting tard, is he folding any pair?

jt1 · #3 11-09-2005, 04:48 AM

1) did you already know that sb and bb suck?

2) I'm not sure about this but short handed I find the sng to indicate top pair. In full ring games, it often indicates a new draw or a newly made pair or a pp. But now that I look at it even if it means a new draw, your still screwed.

3) the blinds could have the spade flush and they just look like they suck enough for one of them to call with any pair.

baronzeus · #4 11-09-2005, 04:50 AM

good to see you're still insane [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

this is totally standard for me. they all muck 90% of the time.

New001 · #5 11-09-2005, 04:55 AM

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good to see you're still insane [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

this is totally standard for me. they all muck 90% of the time.

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Don't you mean you get called at least once 90% of the time? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

baronzeus · #6 11-09-2005, 05:07 AM

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good to see you're still insane [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

this is totally standard for me. they all muck 90% of the time.

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Don't you mean you get called at least once 90% of the time? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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that's just silly!!!!!

PS i was kidding. river bluff raises are so rare and infrequent and hard to calculate for me that i dont worry about them much.

stripsqueez · #7 11-09-2005, 04:53 AM

i love it when someone posts UTG - i struggle not to raise any 2 cards in your spot - QJo is a monster

i worry that a poster will call down and show me something revolting like AK or 33

stripsqueez golden rule number 14 is that when you bluff raise the river and it doesnt work you must assume you are a chook - if it does work you are entitled to believe you are a poker deity for as long as it takes to deal the next hand

stripsqueez - chickenhawk

NLSoldier · #8 11-09-2005, 04:54 AM

strip! reply to my PM plz!

TStoneMBD · #9 11-09-2005, 05:54 AM

im surprised everyone likes this river play. i think its pretty bad. not only is UTG going to call you with any pair but you have 2 players behind you 1 of which donk bet the flop. the BB will often be calling a raise with a 9 and possibly any pair. you have to hope hes on a busted draw and that UTG has 2 blanks.

NLSoldier · #10 11-09-2005, 06:05 AM

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im surprised everyone likes this river play. i think its pretty bad. not only is UTG going to call you with any pair but you have 2 players behind you 1 of which donk bet the flop. the BB will often be calling a raise with a 9 and possibly any pair. you have to hope hes on a busted draw and that UTG has 2 blanks.

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i was waiting for the voice of reason [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

truth is, it was a misclick, but they all folded. I immediately designated this hand as the official end of my running bad [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]