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Old 12-10-2005, 08:49 PM
Victor Victor is offline
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unknown button opens, sb (38/8/1.2/400) 3bets i call from the bb with 10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] button just calls.

flop is 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

sb bets, i raise, button folds, sb 3bets i call.

turn is 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

bet call

river is offsuit 5.

bet call.
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Old 12-10-2005, 08:51 PM
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i'd cap preflop. postflop is fine, i don't think there's any issue with not folding an overpair on the river for one more bet.
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Old 12-10-2005, 08:52 PM
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I play it the same and pray for AK, A9, or some really overplayed other hand. He is quite agro for his low PRF. I think this may lead support to him falling in love with a preflop hand, and taking it to the extreme.

I could also see raising the turn, but given that we have the flush draw, I am not sure, because getting 3-bet would kinda suck. If we didn't pick up the flush draw, I am definetly raising the turn for a free showdown.
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Old 12-10-2005, 08:56 PM
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he's only 1.2 aggro, nothing too huge. I would actually fold this river. Raising pf out of the SB shows much strength and backed in up on the flop as well. I just dont think you win often enough here.
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Old 12-10-2005, 08:57 PM
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he's only 1.2 aggro, nothing too huge. I would actually fold this river. Raising pf out of the SB shows much strength and backed in up on the flop as well. I just dont think you win often enough here.

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Also, he's clearly not afraid of the flush draw being completed on the turn.
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Old 12-10-2005, 08:58 PM
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Raising pf out of the SB shows much strength

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he's 3-betting a button open raise. i don't think that shows much strength at all. yeah i see his pfr of 8 over 400 hands, but, he's 3-betting a button open raise.
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Old 12-10-2005, 09:00 PM
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Default Re: stupid 1010 hand

His PF raise is 8 and he 3-bet a button steal raise. You're giving waaay too much credit. Folding river would be awful.

Vic - I say cap PF. Rest is well played.
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Old 12-10-2005, 09:03 PM
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he's only 1.2 aggro, nothing too huge. I would actually fold this river. Raising pf out of the SB shows much strength and backed in up on the flop as well. I just dont think you win often enough here.

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i want more people to say this.
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Old 12-10-2005, 09:24 PM
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he's only 1.2 aggro, nothing too huge. I would actually fold this river. Raising pf out of the SB shows much strength and backed in up on the flop as well. I just dont think you win often enough here.

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i want more people to say this.

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We need to be good about 10% of the time.

Hand that beat us:
JJ - 6
QQ - 6
KK - 6
AA - 6
99 - 3
88 - 3

30 combos. That means there need to be at least 3 combos of hands we beat.

AK - 16
A9 - 12

There are 28 combos. That means that if he overplays these hands 10% of the time, we should call.
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Old 12-10-2005, 09:38 PM
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I agree with the point of PF cap, heres a hand i definately want heads up especially being out of position.
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