Could someone explain "donkbet"

#1 11-17-2005, 05:19 PM

Been lurking these forums for a while and seen this term Donkbet used frequently. From what ive seen, it is a lead out bet in one of two situations:

1) A lead out from the SB/BB into PF raiser or
2) a lead bet into a flop or turn raise.

Correct? What I am trying to figure out is what the donk bet indicates? It seems like people use this on the when raised on the flop of a draw heavy board, they are leading out in order to avoid a free card. In the other case, the BB leads out because they have an average hand and are trying to figure out where they stand. Are my assumptions correct? What type of hands does the usual donkbetter bet with and whats the goal of this bet. How should you interpret and react to these bets. I know this is a vague question and each situation is usually player read and board dependent, but am trying to figure what the donkbet means and what are the mistakes made by leading in certain situations.

#2 11-17-2005, 05:25 PM

Dunno if it has special meaning in 2+2, but other forums I frequent refer to a donkbet as any bet made way OOP against a solid/scare board with a marginal hand or that has no specific reasoning to it, or even a bet made by donk him/herself.

Maybe some more veteran posters here can elaborate.

#3 11-17-2005, 05:25 PM

I'll see if I can give an example, maybe my understanding isn't so great.

You raise pre-flop... Donk Calls (You have position on Donk)

Donk checks to you, you bet, donk calls.

On the turn Donk Bets (donkbet).

That's probably only partly correct. meh... :?

#4 11-17-2005, 05:25 PM

It means when someone does not check to the raiser.

krimson · #5 11-17-2005, 05:30 PM

When somone who was c/c'ing leads out on the turn or river. I wouldn't go so far as calling a lead on the flop a donkbet.

This usually indicates one of the following:
1) Monster hand, looking to 3-bet a big street
2) Good hand, avoiding a free card / betting for value
3) Mediocre hand, looking for information, often folds to a raise
4) Total clueless fish "getting tricky" with misc cards

I think the term was coined due to #4.

paperboyNC · #6 11-17-2005, 05:36 PM

UTG "donkbet" the river when he made his hand.

PokerStars 5/10 Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $5.
UTG (poster) checks, 2 folds, Hero raises, 3 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, BB raises, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.20 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, BB calls, UTG calls.

River: (9.20 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG calls $10 (All-In).

Final Pot: 13.20 BB

Results in white below: 
UTG has 3c 4d (straight, six high).
Hero has Kc Kd (one pair, kings).
Outcome: UTG wins 13.20 BB.

brazilio · #7 11-17-2005, 05:39 PM

Raising the river there sucks, BB isn't folding a hand that's beating you and I don't think you're confident enough to fold to a 3-bet when a guy posts UTG.

cpk · #8 11-17-2005, 05:49 PM

UTG was all-in, so a 3-bet was not a possibility.

brazilio · #9 11-17-2005, 07:52 PM

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UTG was all-in, so a 3-bet was not a possibility.

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This isn't a dangerous hand for getting an overcall either.

shant · #10 11-17-2005, 07:55 PM

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There needs to be a FAQ for this.

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