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Old 11-07-2005, 06:18 PM
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Default $50 NL - turned 2 pairs but with a three to flush

The villain is a rather tight player who has folded to almost all my preflop raises and that's all I know about him. What you guys think about this hand on each street and what would you do in such situation.


Jordy is at seat 1 with 55.45
Zoli2 is at seat 2 with 36.80
LaCoste* is at seat 3 with 67.57
hunter65 is at seat 4 with 19.37
CKIRBYGO is at seat 5 with 57.85

hunter65 posts the large blind 0.50
LaCoste* posts the small blind 0.25

LaCoste*: K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
hunter65: --, --
CKIRBYGO: --, --
Jordy: --, --
Zoli2: --, --

Pre-flop:

CKIRBYGO: Call 0.50
Jordy: Call 0.50
Zoli2: Fold
LaCoste*: Call 0.50
hunter65: Raise 1.00
CKIRBYGO: Call 1.00
Jordy: Call 1.00
LaCoste*: Call 1.00

Flop (Board: 10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]):

LaCoste*: Bet 3.00
hunter65: Call 3.00
CKIRBYGO: Fold
Jordy: Fold

Turn (Board: 10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]):

LaCoste*: Check
hunter65: Bet 5.00
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Old 11-07-2005, 09:17 PM
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Default Re: $50 NL - turned 2 pairs but with a three to flush

Bet/fold turn should be your standard line here. See HPFAP's section on play when the flush card hits.
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Old 11-07-2005, 09:27 PM
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Default Re: $50 NL - turned 2 pairs but with a three to flush

May I ask what HPFAP stands for?
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Old 11-08-2005, 05:04 AM
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Default Re: $50 NL - turned 2 pairs but with a three to flush

Hold'em Poker for Advanced Players. It's a book on limit, but a lot of the concepts can be applied to NL as well.
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Old 11-08-2005, 05:18 AM
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Default Re: $50 NL - turned 2 pairs but with a three to flush

OOP against a tight player (which means he's less likely to bluff a flush). Good turn check since you're OOP. I'd check-call the turn and non-heart river.
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Old 11-08-2005, 05:21 AM
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Default Re: $50 NL - turned 2 pairs but with a three to flush

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Good turn check since you're OOP.

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What if Villain has KQ with the Q of hearts or something similar? I think the problem with checking this board is that it gives any heart or pair + gutshot type hand infinite odds to outdraw you...
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Old 11-08-2005, 05:29 AM
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Default Re: $50 NL - turned 2 pairs but with a three to flush

Yeah that certainly sucks. If I were last to act, I'd bet the hell out of this turn. But being OOP I'll be looking to keep the pot as small as possible.
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Old 11-08-2005, 05:35 AM
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Default Re: $50 NL - turned 2 pairs but with a three to flush

I don't think checking and calling a bet keeps the pot any smaller than betting 3/4ths and then folding if raised.
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Old 11-08-2005, 05:39 AM
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Default Re: $50 NL - turned 2 pairs but with a three to flush

Are you taking this line because the villain is tight? Or is this how you play it generally?
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Old 11-08-2005, 05:47 AM
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Default Re: $50 NL - turned 2 pairs but with a three to flush

Just wondering because if you're going to bet 3/4 pot and fold to a raise, why not check-call up to a 3/4 pot bet and get to see the river which may fill up your boat... not only that you may be ahead anyway. I am generally not trying to win big pots OOP.
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