Time to push?

J Chap · #1 10-26-2005, 04:18 AM

Villain seemed to be a chaser.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

SB ($82.95)
BB ($224.81)
UTG ($71.05)
Hero ($133.40)
CO ($90.35)
Button ($67.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($8.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5, BB raises to $13, Hero calls $8.

Turn: ($34.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $20,

Time to push this one? Or should I try to reap more value?

Thanks,
J Chap

#2 10-26-2005, 04:20 AM

a push seems unecessary, a reraise is definitely in order though...50 maybe

Riposte · #3 10-26-2005, 04:21 AM

Don't you think raising would reap more value?

J Chap · #4 10-26-2005, 04:24 AM

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a push seems unecessary, a reraise is definitely in order though...50 maybe

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OK nice - that's exactly what I did. I raised to 50, he called, river came with a third heart, and he instantly pushed me the rest of the way in.

Curse'n'call?

#5 10-26-2005, 04:28 AM

what heart was it :P

UOPokerPlayer · #6 10-26-2005, 07:41 AM

Bet at least 6 on the flop. There's no draw on the flop, so when he raises the flop and leads the turn my guess is a10 or overpair, maybe air. I think you can 3-bet flop here because his raise isn't designed to make you fold. Instead of a push do 2/3 pot raise. You can get the rest in on the river, and you give overpairs and tptk less chance to fold. You can just mentally commit yourself to the hand. Remember that you don't want him to fold. If he's a chaser and you think he's gonna draw at something push is fine. Just hard to see a draw on the board. You also get a lot of desperation bluffs with a missed hand if you don't bet his entire stack.

sting · #7 10-26-2005, 11:32 AM

Insta call. He raised the flop without any draw. Very unlikely that he hit a flush. If so you have to live with it. I smell a pair bigger than JJ.

Hattifnatt · #8 10-26-2005, 11:45 AM

I make it 30-35 on the flop after his c/r.

J Chap · #9 10-26-2005, 11:08 PM

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his raise isn't designed to make you fold.

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I never thought about it that way - I guess that's true. If he was bluff-CR'ing me, he'd make it more than 13. great point.

#10 10-26-2005, 11:24 PM

what do you think he has? he could have an overpair to the board and think his hand is best. I dont think that he is on a draw since he bet the turn. I would push here because he could think that you are making a move at the pot. He probably has a pocket pair, QQ, KK, AA, 99 or 88 mabye. If he has JJ well then u just got unlucky. Push here on the turn though