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Old 07-31-2005, 01:11 AM
MicroBob MicroBob is offline
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Default Ub.net pro tip of the day!!

Hellmuth just came on with a little feature in the re-run of the UB tourney thing on Fox.

They even laid out his top 10 hands on the table in the supposedly correct order of importance (AA, KK, QQ, AK, JJ, TT, 99, 88, 77, AQ....no distinction made between AK and AW suited or unsuited).

He was preaching patience and to play ONLY those hands.
For some reason I would think he would be so embarrassed by the ripping his very tight and basic advice that he wouldn't harp on it. But instead he is featuring it and talking about how he 'will tell you in his books and DVD's to play only these hands'. So evidently he's not SO embarrassed to stop doling out such advice.

Phil Hellmuth rocks!!!!



Also kind of amusing that this would be the feature in a tourney where the blind-structure appears to be such that patience is NOT much of an option and every player is forced to play anything and everything above and beyond the 'Hellmuth top 10'.
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Old 07-31-2005, 01:24 AM
Ringo_Mojo Ringo_Mojo is offline
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Default Re: Ub.net pro tip of the day!!

When i first got started Play Poker Like the Pros was one of the first books i read, and i used the "top 10 hands" strategy to build my initial bankroll with bonuswhoring. I credit Phill with making me realize what tight agressive play really is. I've since moved on to better strategies and much better books, but for somebody who doesn't know anything I often reccomend they start with the top 10 hands.
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Old 07-31-2005, 09:38 PM
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Default Re: Ub.net pro tip of the day!!

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When i first got started Play Poker Like the Pros was one of the first books i read, and i used the "top 10 hands" strategy to build my initial bankroll with bonuswhoring. I credit Phill with making me realize what tight agressive play really is. I've since moved on to better strategies and much better books, but for somebody who doesn't know anything I often reccomend they start with the top 10 hands.

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Agree.. Phil's limit section is a very good start for beginners to learn Tight-Aggressive poker.
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Old 07-31-2005, 11:01 PM
Sakuraba Sakuraba is offline
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Default Re: Ub.net pro tip of the day!!

I originally started with this strategy also. I did add in his majority play hands pretty quickly.

I hardly knew the rules of poker and had only read Phil's book, but I was able to beat Party 50/1 and 10 SnGs pretty easily. Obviously, my win rate went up when I found 2+2 books and forums, but it is pretty easy to beat low limit games simply following Phil's advice and using your head a little.

I ran pretty good right away or I would have busted out early (since I was way underbankrolled), but I am pretty sure I had a positive expectation after having read just his book.
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Old 08-01-2005, 01:12 PM
Beavis68 Beavis68 is offline
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Default Re: Ub.net pro tip of the day!!

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When i first got started Play Poker Like the Pros was one of the first books i read, and i used the "top 10 hands" strategy to build my initial bankroll with bonuswhoring. I credit Phill with making me realize what tight agressive play really is. I've since moved on to better strategies and much better books, but for somebody who doesn't know anything I often reccomend they start with the top 10 hands.

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I started playing party SnGs, and used a combination of the Top 10 and Top 15 by position, then tossing in his limit Majority Play hands as we got short handed.

I built my bank playing party NL SnGs this way.
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Old 07-31-2005, 01:38 AM
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Default Re: Ub.net pro tip of the day!!

LOL HE FORGOT ABOUT ATo
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Old 07-31-2005, 04:44 AM
A_Junglen A_Junglen is offline
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Default Re: Ub.net pro tip of the day!!

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LOL HE FORGOT ABOUT ATo

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I hope A-10o isn't considered a "premium" by you...
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Old 07-31-2005, 06:36 AM
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Default Re: Ub.net pro tip of the day!!

I hate to say it but if the majority of players played only those hands, they'd probably make more money.

Remember, most people aren't very good and their main problem is that they play too loose.

I don't think his advice is awful for beginners. If they can play just those hands and be profitable and slowly add hands to their repertoire, they may have a chance of slowly improving rather than going bust right when they start.

Ryan
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Old 07-31-2005, 10:14 AM
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Default Re: Ub.net pro tip of the day!!

Probably very good advice for a beginner (which i assume people going to dotnet would be).
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Old 07-31-2005, 12:10 PM
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Default Re: Ub.net pro tip of the day!!

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Probably very good advice for a beginner (which i assume people going to dotnet would be).

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I would imagine people would be bored out of their mind only playing those hands.

What would the VP$IP be for these players? Less than ten I would imagine.
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