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Old 10-25-2005, 11:38 AM
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Default 55: 1st hand of tourney, I fold AKo to 4.5BB raise

UTG+1 is a solid regular multi-tabler who is very tight early, and I have a note on him that says, "2+2?"

Thoughts?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

1st hand, so everyone has t1000.

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t70</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero folds</font>.
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Old 10-25-2005, 11:40 AM
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Default Re: 55: 1st hand of tourney, I fold AKo to 4.5BB raise

I would never fold this here, I would however, just call.
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Old 10-25-2005, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: 55: 1st hand of tourney, I fold AKo to 4.5BB raise

I usually call there. Especially with position you can control the pot size post flop; but I see the other side, too, that if you hit an ace or a king you are not going to win much when you are ahead, so your implied odds are pretty low since by your description he is not raising an ace less than AK here (and you bleed when he flops a set and you flop TPTK).
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Old 10-25-2005, 12:02 PM
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Default Re: 55: 1st hand of tourney, I fold AKo to 4.5BB raise

nh. Well not really, who likes to fold AK but I'd do the same and it's not close. AKo is horrible HU against a range like JJ+, AK.
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Old 10-25-2005, 12:16 PM
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Default Re: 55: 1st hand of tourney, I fold AKo to 4.5BB raise

It's easy to say for me now but nice laydown. If this player is a solid regular multi-tabler I would respect his UTG raise too and putting him as someone mentioned on a really tight holding like AA-QQ (not sure with JJ, would he really raise with that? Worth to think off) and AKs. I don't think I would be capable of folding but I probably should.
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Old 10-25-2005, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: 55: 1st hand of tourney, I fold AKo to 4.5BB raise

I pretty much always fold AK to a 4-5xBB raise from a TAG multitabler in level 1. Very often I will see QQ-AA at showdown.

If I have position and the player is slightly looser then I often re-raise or call.

Of course this is for the 22s and I realize a 4-5xBB raise from a solid player at the 55s can mean a wider range of hands.
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Old 10-25-2005, 01:23 PM
PinkSteel PinkSteel is offline
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Default Re: 55: 1st hand of tourney, I fold AKo to 4.5BB raise

No one thinks having position on the raiser makes it worth it? I'd be awfully tempted to flat call and cross my fingers for a good flop.

No question, most likely outcome is you fold to his flop continuation bet. But the less likely scenario could get really juicy.
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Old 10-25-2005, 01:27 PM
zambonidrivr zambonidrivr is offline
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Default Re: 55: 1st hand of tourney, I fold AKo to 4.5BB raise

i don't mind the laydown at all

i would have called... hoping to see a king or ace flop... with a couple unders.

this kind of laydown has truly elevated my game. NH
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Old 10-25-2005, 02:24 PM
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Default Re: 55: 1st hand of tourney, I fold AKo to 4.5BB raise

Considering position, first hand of tourney, and your "2+2" note, this read is enough for me to put villian on JJ+, AKs (maybe AKo). The pot is offering you about even money to see a flop in which you're at least a 2:1 dog (potentially 4:1 or worse). So when you're not way behind you'll either split or take a small pot as villian will not pay you off for your big A as he is most likely not the type to overplay a mid pocket pair. I don't think you have implied odds here, I don't think you're up against a weaker A, and the pot odds are horrid so I personally would fold here. If you are a very strong flop player and think you can out maneuver villian, then maybe I'd call since you have position. I also call with AKs simply because I have more ways to win and my hand will stand up better if the blinds get involved.
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Old 10-25-2005, 02:30 PM
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Default Re: 55: 1st hand of tourney, I fold AKo to 4.5BB raise

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I would never fold this here, I would however, just call.

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