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Old 06-19-2005, 12:52 PM
Lost Wages Lost Wages is offline
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Default Folded a Mediocre Hand for On more Bet

Opponent is loose but his aggression level seems correct.

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Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls.

River: (12.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB

Comments on any street appreciated.
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Old 06-19-2005, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: Folded a Mediocre Hand for On more Bet

I think you fold to his turn raise, believing he has an A or the flush. If you don't fold there, then I think you should call the river and at least find out what he had. I'd like to hear how others play this as it does seem to come up often. I sometimes call the turn raise hoping the river brings a Q or a K and that he doesn't have the flush. Once I've done that, seems like I should call the river as well.
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Old 06-19-2005, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: Folded a Mediocre Hand for On more Bet

He has a flush draw. Can't fold the turn.

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Old 06-19-2005, 02:24 PM
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Default Re: Folded a Mediocre Hand for On more Bet

EDIT: NM, I thought you were referring to villain.
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Old 06-19-2005, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: Folded a Mediocre Hand for On more Bet

I call the river but am not happy about it.
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Old 06-19-2005, 04:14 PM
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Default Re: Folded a Mediocre Hand for On more Bet

I'm inclined to check-call the turn and bet the river if you improve at all, otherwise just check call again.
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Old 06-19-2005, 04:55 PM
krishanleong krishanleong is offline
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I'm inclined to check-call the turn and bet the river if you improve at all, otherwise just check call again.

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I like it. I do this too sometimes. Sucks to pay 2 BB for a solid draw on the turn.

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Old 06-19-2005, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: Folded a Mediocre Hand for On more Bet

I would bet into button on the flop if you think you would almost automatically raise you, therefore making UTG face two cold. Or are you trying to checkraise the two of them for value? Please explain your reasoning or my flawed reasoning.

EDIT: I think I check/call the river too.
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Old 06-19-2005, 09:05 PM
Mason Malmuth Mason Malmuth is offline
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Default Re: Folded a Mediocre Hand for On more Bet

Hi ggbman:

I agree.

One reason to bet the turn is to fold and save a river bet in case you are raised. But the problem here is that with the Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and the size of the pot, if raised you'll need to call. So a check-call strategy is clearly superior.

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