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i was fairly certain i'd get the responses that i got along the lines of ew i don't like that. and in retrospect, you're right from an objective view. however, the villain here wasn't a true ABC nut peddler but he seemed more along the evolution line of figuring he can make more $ with his low PP's and trying to read hands of his opponents.
he called, had 99 river bricked MHIG. either way you look at it, i agree 100% with everyone here that he'll call with sets...the majority of the time. i rarely do this however and felt i can get away with it against the opponent. thanks again for the thoughts! |
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no need to get tricksey, just bet the flop. This isnt 2k nl, opponents really arent that observant. I dont like push, just call here and raise his river bet instead or raise a smaller amount.
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no need to get tricksey, just bet the flop. This isnt 2k nl, opponents really arent that observant. I dont like push, just call here and raise his river bet instead or raise a smaller amount. [/ QUOTE ] you're right this isn't 2k nl. it also isn't 2nl. if this was 200nl at the casino i'd be all for your thinking. however, this is mid-stakes and believe it or not, poker players CAN be good. |
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I'd assume he'd be more likely to think a full PSB is what you'd do with missed AKo. I've won decent pots like that by inducing bluffs from [censored] hands by betting full pot to resemble a steal.
----- PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed) SB ($91.80) BB ($110.10) UTG ($208.70) UTG+1 ($62.40) MP1 ($311.60) MP2 ($225.60) Hero ($200) Button ($218.85) Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $6, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>. Flop: ($15) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $14</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $56.4</font>, Hero calls $42.40. Turn: ($127.80) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> River: ($127.80) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Final Pot: $127.80 Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> UTG+1 has Js Ts (high card, jack). Hero has Td Th (one pair, tens). Outcome: Hero wins $127.80. </font> ----- |
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That hand is completely different since you arent the PFR
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I'd assume he'd be more likely to think a full PSB is what you'd do with missed AKo. I've won decent pots like that by inducing bluffs from [censored] hands by betting full pot to resemble a steal. ----- PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed) SB ($91.80) BB ($110.10) UTG ($208.70) UTG+1 ($62.40) MP1 ($311.60) MP2 ($225.60) Hero ($200) Button ($218.85) Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $6, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>. Flop: ($15) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $14</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $56.4</font>, Hero calls $42.40. Turn: ($127.80) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> River: ($127.80) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Final Pot: $127.80 Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> UTG+1 has Js Ts (high card, jack). Hero has Td Th (one pair, tens). Outcome: Hero wins $127.80. </font> ----- [/ QUOTE ] very nice. i've never thought about inducing bluffs before by doing that. can you give a more detailed description of how to do this given specific opponents and with/without position? sounds like an amazing tool to use...i do the same, but when reraised like that i chuck it. i give my opponents too much credit sometimes! |
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That hand is completely different since you arent the PFR [/ QUOTE ] Correct, which is why I never said it was similar. The same concept still applies, though, mine just sells a lot better since I wasn't PFR. [ QUOTE ] can you give a more detailed description of how to do this given specific opponents and with/without position? [/ QUOTE ] Crappy opponents and decent opponents should be main target, I'd say. Crappy ones are likely to think someone would only bet huge with a bad hand since they're so used to betting tiny with their monsters. Decent players might think you're bluffing and call or raise all in with a weakish hand. Good players will most likely fold. Also, mine was much different since the guy was so short stacked, but I insta-called his bet and said in my head, "he thinks I am bluffing" before the showdown. Him raising pre and then checking makes him look weak. Me betting PSB very quickly seems like I'm picking up on his weakness. It's in the same ball park as feigning weakness with a weak lead into the PFR, looking for a raise, after you've flopped a concealed set, only now you're advertising the opposite. Makes sense. |
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he called, had 99 river bricked MHIG. [/ QUOTE ] It's hard to criticize since you won the hand, but it's safe to say that you were EXTREMELY lucky that he called given your read [ QUOTE ] villain is super tight preflop but will try to push you off a hand if he suspects you have AK. [/ QUOTE ] since in this case the villian is no longer "pushing you off a hand" by calling your raise. Also note that if you had just called the raise, villian would have either potted it (dumb play) or checked to you (in which case he would call a pot bet from you). In both cases, you win half of his remaining stack. You'll need to amend your notes for this player to read: willing to call ridiculous overbets with underpairs vs a "suspiciously" played hand. |
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Also, I think your note that he'll push you off a hand if he suspects UIAKo is very dangerous.
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