T9s on button facing three limpers and a raiser

[Lawrence Ng]

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"Suppose you have Td9d on the button. Three people limp and the cutoff raises. What do you do?"

Never fold.

In no particular order and with no mutual exclusivity ...

I'd reraise if the blinds are tight but not so tight that they don't need an extra reason to fold.

I'd reraise if the cutoff is a button thief.

I'd reraise if these are check-to-the-reraiser kind of folks.

I'd reraise because reraising is fun.

I'd call if the big blind is calling no matter what.

I'd call if the cutoff is definitely not being spunky or getting out of line.

I'd call if everyone in the pot so far is playing well at the time.

I'd call because calling can be fun too.


Tommy

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Folding also doesn't make any money here. I wholeheartedly agree with Tommy's post here.

Lawrence

[pokernicus]

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however, one huge factor you didn't mention is that your relative position SUCKS and that makes your hand significantly less valuable. agaisnt an UTG raise this is an easy call against all but the tightest raisers

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I alluded to this in my original post:

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(One disadvantage is that your relative position might not be all that great; in particular, the raiser is immediately on your right, so if the flop clobbers you, and if it is checked to him and he bets, a raise on your part might blow away the field instead of building a pot).

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The upshot in the discussion so far seems to be that in the tighter/tougher MLHE games that the book might have had in mind, you might be more inclined to fold. For some of the looser games, raising or calling are viable options.

So, I guess the answer seems to be "it depends" [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. Each option (call, rasise, or fold) could be justified for a reasonable set of circumstances.

[DcifrThs]

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was that supposed to read "i have to go to class" or " i'm not going to explain because i have too much class"?

it read like the latter to me anyways.

I dont understand what you meant by coming farther since being banned. Que paso senor Dee?

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i confused the 2 threads.

Q9s insta call in bb to a raise closing the action where K9o may be a fold.

Barron

[BarronVangorToth]

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"Suppose you have Td9d on the button. Three people limp and the cutoff raises. What do you do?"

Never fold.

In no particular order and with no mutual exclusivity ...

I'd reraise if the blinds are tight but not so tight that they don't need an extra reason to fold.

I'd reraise if the cutoff is a button thief.

I'd reraise if these are check-to-the-reraiser kind of folks.

I'd reraise because reraising is fun.

I'd call if the big blind is calling no matter what.

I'd call if the cutoff is definitely not being spunky or getting out of line.

I'd call if everyone in the pot so far is playing well at the time.

I'd call because calling can be fun too.


Tommy

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Interesting statements:

1) I'm fairly aggressive and maybe sometimes too aggressive
2) Tommy is oftentimes (wrongly) accused of being too passive
3) Tommy is more aggressive with this holding than I would be
4) I've been thinking about 910s far too much today and points 1-3 aren't going to help matters in the next few days in regards to this point
5) The guy who, to my knowledge, didn't accept the other Barron's one-on-one challenge (that was the two of you, right?) likes my posts

I think I'm going to take a nap now.

Head
spinning


Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com

ugh.

nevermind

[Barry]

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2) Tommy is oftentimes (wrongly) accused of being too passive


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That's mostly a result of his posts when he's out of position. He's got the button here and Tommy loves his button.