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Old 03-14-2005, 09:15 PM
The Dude The Dude is offline
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I'm somewhat curious what percentage of you think this hand was filled with no-brainer decisions.

stheif is on the button, The Dude occupies the CO, and Clarkmeister is in the hijack seat. BB in this hand is actually a decent player, but he's in a little over his head at this table. He probably does fine in most Vegas 20-40 games, but he's not hard to play against. He's been playing pretty straighforward poker up to this point.

Preflop:
2 limpers to The Dude who limps in the CO w/ 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: (4.5 SBs) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 Players)</font>
Checked to The Dude who bets, BB raises. Both limpers fold, The Dude calls.

Turn: (4.25 SBs) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 Players)</font>
BB bets, The Dude calls.

River: (6.25 BBs) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 Players)</font>
The Dude's plan is to raise a bet, and bet if checked to.
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Old 03-14-2005, 09:23 PM
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Default Re: SOP?

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He's been playing pretty straighforward poker up to this point.


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If he's playing straightforward, you can't really like the river bet. Is he capable of paying off a 6 when you raise him? Would he try to thin value bet a 6 in this spot? I like call if he bets and bet if he checks.

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Old 03-14-2005, 09:25 PM
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He's been playing pretty straighforward poker up to this point.


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If he's playing straightforward, you can't really like the river bet. Is he capable of paying off a 6 when you raise him? Would he try to thin value bet a 6 in this spot? I like call if he bets and bet if he checks.

Meow.

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I agree with this.
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Old 03-14-2005, 09:26 PM
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I agree with this.

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me too.
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Old 03-15-2005, 02:29 AM
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terrible river raise.
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Old 03-15-2005, 02:33 AM
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oh btw, pretty easy turn fold if you ask me.
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Old 03-15-2005, 02:38 AM
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oh btw, pretty easy turn fold if you ask me.

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Really? You don't give him much for his pair outs huh? And the extra bet or two he will get when he hits a straight or his pair is good.
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Old 03-15-2005, 02:39 AM
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Raise the turn?

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Old 03-15-2005, 02:41 AM
TStoneMBD TStoneMBD is offline
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i think youre really stretching your outs here. i think this is a pretty clear -EV play. under some situations you need to make calls like this for metagame, but this likely isnt one of them.
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Old 03-15-2005, 03:54 AM
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I guess you call the turn getting 5:1 cause you think you have 10 outs not 4. 3.6:1 and also implied odds, he could have a 4 but it is just statistially more likely (how mch more likely is it mathetmatically?) that he just has a 6. If you have 4 outs that is 4/46, or 42:4, 10.5:1 which is not so good but more implied odds and les slikely to happen so it seems close but a call is okay.

THe 10.5:1 and 3.6:1 needs to be weighted with the odds of this guy having a 6 and him having a 4 then we can figure out mathetmatically if this turn call is right.
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