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Old 09-13-2005, 01:06 AM
GMan42 GMan42 is offline
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Default Re: To aggressive with A/K

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You're actually getting 5.5:1 effective odds to call down. Even if you're not drawing dead on the turn, you don't have your full 5 outs.

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But shouldn't we take into account the possibility he has two pair, in which case we have 8 outs to beat/counterfeit him? I don't think we can be so certain he has the set.
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Old 09-13-2005, 01:18 AM
W. Deranged W. Deranged is offline
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Default Re: To aggressive with A/K

In my opinion this hand should've gone:

Flop: SB bets, Hero raises, Button three-bets, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: SB checks, Hero bets, Button raises, SB folds, Hero folds.
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Old 09-13-2005, 01:36 AM
Bodhi Bodhi is offline
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Default Re: To aggressive with A/K

You think the villain has T3? If we're lucky he has A3, and if we're unlucky he has AT. Against AT we only have 3 outs. let's calculate your weighted average of outs (against TT and 33 we're drawing dead):

[(6x9)+(6x3)+(3x0)+(3x0)]/(6+6+3+3)= approximately 4 outs.

We'd really have to throw in a raise when we spike a K, a T or an 8 to make this draw profitable, but then we're getting 3-bet those times that we're behind on the river. So even if we 'improve,' we make one extra when ahead, and we lose 2 extra on the river when behind.

We can lay down TPTK against passive opponents where appropriate. This is one of those times.
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Old 09-13-2005, 01:40 AM
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Default Re: To aggressive with A/K

care to tell me what he had?
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Old 09-13-2005, 06:16 PM
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Villain had A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] for 2 pair

Thanks for all the input!!
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Old 09-13-2005, 06:18 PM
brettbrettr brettbrettr is offline
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Default Re: To aggressive with A/K

You're flop call is super-bad. Not in the James Brown good sort of way but in the worse than regularly bad sort of way.
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