KJ offsuit

[Spartan1983]

BB is an unknown, MP2 is a typical fish 50vpi, passive.

Hero is dealt K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8 handed)$3/6 Pacific

3 folds, fish calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, BB calls, fish calls
<font color="green">Was trying to get heads up with the known fish </font>

Flop: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hero bets, unknown calls, fish calls
<font color="green">I bet hoping to take it down now, or at least to get 1 fold [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] </font>

Turn: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero bets, unknown calls, fish calls [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
<font color="green">Rag, hoping someone believes I have a hand or plays back so I know where I stand. </font>

River: K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero checks, unknown checks, fish checks
<font color="green">I planned on a check/call,(weak?). Now that I have top pair I want to see a showdown, not get check/raised. </font>

Thoughts? Thanks.

[soweak.]

Bet the river.

most of the time you have the best hand here. If you are trying to check/raise with one passive player and one unknown you have to be sure the unknown is gonna bet here. Just play it straightforward and rake in the last 2 BB from worse hands.

[Jake (The Snake)]

Bet the river, you will get calls from a 9 or 8 plenty.

If one of them had a 3 they very likely would have raised the turn.

[cold_cash]

After being called in both places on the flop I would check the turn and see what happens.

If I was still around on the river I'd bet.

(It's also easier to respond if you put the pot size in there.)

[JohnnyPhoenix]

Definitely BET! But what was the pot size? What was the outcome?

Johnny

[Spartan1983]

Thanks for the replies. Pot size was 4.6 BB/s

[teajay]

I don't understand the logic for not betting the river. You were firing bets in the pot trying to win it uncontested, but that didn't work. So when you actually have a hand, you stop betting.

Bet the river.

[ArturiusX]

I think you'll find a substantial amount of times you get raised by these donks, your hand will still be good.