Hand for review... ($10 SNG)

mart_ph · #1 01-29-2005, 03:33 PM

Paradise Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) converter

MP2 (t1360.00)
CO (t515.00)
Button (t2554.00)
Hero (t865.00)
BB (t615.00)
UTG (t1405.00)
UTG+1 (t655.00)
MP1 (t2031.00)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of t10.
3 folds, MP2 calls t20, 1 fold, Button calls t20, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t80) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets t70, BB folds, MP2 raises to t140, Button folds, Hero calls t70.

Turn: (t360) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t200, MP2 raises to t400, Hero raises to t705, MP2 calls t305.

River: (t1770) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t1770

Results in white below: 
MP2 has 9d Jd (straight, king high).
Hero has Js Qd (three of a kind, queens).
Outcome: MP2 wins t1770.

Insty · #2 01-29-2005, 04:15 PM

What did you think the flop raise meant?

Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) · #3 01-29-2005, 04:15 PM

Check the flop to see what develops. I'd call a relatively small bet, but fold if it's more than about t60 back to you. The odds of me check-folding this flop are pretty high here...if there's much action at all I am gone.

If you're still there on the turn I'd probably push or checkraise all-in.

Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) · #4 01-29-2005, 04:16 PM

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What did you think the flop raise meant?

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If you're suggesting that from a flop min-raise you can put Villain squarely on J9, your post is asinine. Also note that our Hero has an 6-out open end striaght draw to the nuts (and two more dirty outs, namely the Ac and 9c.)

mart_ph · #5 01-29-2005, 04:22 PM

I was figuring maybe KT.
i thought I just had odds for to call for the OESD.

adanthar · #6 01-29-2005, 04:25 PM

Check the flop, or bet less. You're behind more often than ahead, and if the limper has 88 he won't often bluff this board.

When you bet the turn and get minraised again, why do you think pushing is a good idea?

mart_ph · #7 01-29-2005, 04:32 PM

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When you bet the turn and get minraised again, why do you think pushing is a good idea?

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Yeah - I kinda thought this was a mistake afterwards.

To be brutally honest... it may have been a slight tilt play! I've had a bad few days!! I figured I'd be left with about 300T if I called and lost the hand..which is still enough to play with at this level, but I acted to rash and pushed. Would a call have been better then? I also now hoped the board would pair.

david050173 · #8 01-29-2005, 05:04 PM

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What did you think the flop raise meant?

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If you're suggesting that from a flop min-raise you can put Villain squarely on J9, your post is asinine. Also note that our Hero has an 6-out open end striaght draw to the nuts (and two more dirty outs, namely the Ac and 9c.)

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There are so many hands that you don't really want to be playing against on this board. AJ, KQ, KT, QT, AK, AQ and Kx of clubs. He could also have just have ax of clubs for the gutshot and flush draws. Do you really want to be playing this hand with 2nd pair and no clubs?

mart_ph · #9 01-29-2005, 05:07 PM

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There are so many hands that you don't really want to be playing against on this board. AJ, KQ, KT, QT, AK, AQ and Kx of clubs. He could also have just have ax of clubs for the gutshot and flush draws. Do you really want to be playing this hand with 2nd pair and no clubs?

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Hmm, you're right. Thanks for the post.

Insty · #10 01-29-2005, 05:21 PM

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If you're suggesting that from a flop min-raise you can put Villain squarely on J9, your post is asinine.

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Not at all, It just seemed that the turn action (particularly the all in) was a bit reckless.
You need to be at least considering what the villain might have, and I was interested in whether this had been done or not.