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Old 01-09-2005, 09:19 AM
jojobinks jojobinks is offline
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Default was this way too tight? 3 handed in a 10 +1

thoughts? what i was thinking: i had had a huge stack, and couldn't stomach busting out ahead of the shorty on my left. felt like this was pretty tight but also pretty sure of getting me heads up. discuss.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (4 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">UTG (t3410)</font>
Button (t1715)
Hero (t2475)
<font color="#C00000">BB (t400)</font>

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t900</font>, Button folds, Hero folds, BB calls [t400] t300.

Flop: (t1350) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t1350) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t1350) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t1350

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has Qd Ks (two pair, fives and twos).
BB has 8s Qs (two pair, fives and twos).
Outcome: UTG wins t1350. </font>
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Old 01-09-2005, 10:32 AM
jojobinks jojobinks is offline
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Default Re: was this way too tight? 3 handed in a 10 +1

1st: oops. it was 4 handed, which changes things a lot.
2nd: i don't care about results (at least that's not why i'm asking); the fact that i had the best hand isn't what bothered me. what i want to know is, would others have done this differently?
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Old 01-09-2005, 10:57 AM
Unarmed Unarmed is offline
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Default Re: was this way too tight? 3 handed in a 10 +1

Use the ICM Luke...

Put UTG on a top whatever % hand, BB on a random hand, and assume for simplicity that UTG checks it down to eliminate shorty if you call.
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Old 01-09-2005, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: was this way too tight? 3 handed in a 10 +1

IMHO, there is nothing wrong with waiting until you are in the money before scrapping it out. AJo isn't that great of a hand.
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Old 01-09-2005, 02:45 PM
Big Limpin' Big Limpin' is offline
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Default Re: was this way too tight? 3 handed in a 10 +1

yeah, i like tossing it. because you dont have position on the villian. if you call and check as first action, he will almost certainly bet. Then what? Folding avoids a sticky decision on the flop.
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Old 01-09-2005, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: was this way too tight? 3 handed in a 10 +1

On the bubble this is a definite fold for me.

You haven't given any read for UTG, but why take the risk?

Simply callig and hoping to catch the flop will leave you with less than the button. This could be a very expensive hand. If you lose it you may well still finish in the money, but I'd rather take more into the money to fight with.
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Old 01-09-2005, 06:19 PM
Spladle Master Spladle Master is offline
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Default Re: was this way too tight? 3 handed in a 10 +1

I'd probably push, but I'm [censored]' crazy.
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Old 01-09-2005, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: was this way too tight? 3 handed in a 10 +1

i'd push or fold, depending on how UTG had been playing, and how much i thought he respected my raise.

if you push, he folds, and you bust the BB, you are in great position to win.

i think calling and then giving up on the flop if he bets is the worst play by far.
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