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Old 11-12-2005, 04:39 AM
2PAUL2 2PAUL2 is offline
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Default QQ facing donk bet

ok i think this is easy but just wanna check. no read cos the guy just sat down.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 5 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Hero ($189.54)
UTG ($99.75)
MP ($147.59)
Button ($54.87)
SB ($84.31)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $1, SB (poster) completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, Button calls $4, SB calls $4.

Flop: ($15) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB calls $79.31 (All-In).

Final Pot: $94.31

thx

paul
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Old 11-13-2005, 06:57 AM
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Default Re: QQ facing donk bet

ok i folded.

just a simple good or bad from someone then ill let it die.

thx

paul
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Old 11-13-2005, 07:09 AM
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Default Re: QQ facing donk bet

I'd call.
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Old 11-13-2005, 07:11 AM
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Default Re: QQ facing donk bet

Flip a coin
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Old 11-13-2005, 08:15 AM
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Default Re: QQ facing donk bet

Most hand he has you beat with he probably wouldn't move all in with. Call.
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Old 11-13-2005, 09:36 AM
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Default Re: QQ facing donk bet

no read? fold.

You have some one to act after you, have only $5 invested anyway and are losing to AA,KK,JJ,99 and 88 (and even TT has outs). And that's ignoring loose calls that have flopped a str8 or 2 pair...

You might suspect a draw (maybe with TT) or a hand like (JT)if the opponent is really LAG but he could easily have something that leaves you drawing to max 6 outs, and you still don't know what the BB has..

If villain likes bad all-ins you will find out soon enough
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Old 11-13-2005, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: QQ facing donk bet

I fold and say this to myself:

"I'll get a chance to stack this guy soon if he keeps pulling this."
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Old 11-14-2005, 04:51 AM
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Default Re: QQ facing donk bet

ok the responses have surprised be a little. during the hand i felt it was a pretty easy fold and it didnt take me long to make it. people dont often push that much into that little without a big hand. obviously i started to have a few little doubts or i wouldnt of posted it. now ive thought about it a bit i feel T+pair was his most likely hand which i had 2 blockers against, a set is very unlikely an i have outs against 2 pair. plus if you factor in the party donk factor where 5%ish of the time he'll have complete air or something like AJ/KJ/QJ that i have crushed i think it may be a call.

Board: Jc 9d 8s

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 64.1007 % 63.77% 00.34% { QQ }
Hand 2: 35.8993 % 35.56% 00.34% { TT, AJs, J9s+, T8s+, 98s, AJo, J9o+, T8o+, 98o }

however this is probably the best option:

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Flip a coin

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thx

paul
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Old 11-14-2005, 05:00 AM
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Default Re: QQ facing donk bet

rule of thumb is "everyone is a pussy until proven otherwise"

good fold
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Old 11-14-2005, 05:07 AM
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i think you under bet your hand pre flop, i would raised to 10$
its a hard call for QT, or AJ which is what i put the all in on,
but 4$ it allows 88, 99, JJ, QT

if i limp with 89, JT, 88, 99, JJ, QT, or AJ, i will pay the extra 3 dollars to see the flop knowing i can get payed off, if i hit, espically on the button

me im folding here to a all in
and losing only 4$, instead of my whole stack, needing to cattch runner runner in order to win
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