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Old 08-06-2005, 08:52 AM
2PAUL2 2PAUL2 is offline
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Default Flush on paired board

The table is very loose passive apart from villain who is the only one who has taken any shots at me. Seems solid, has been checkraising my contnuation bets a decent amount but i havent had anything to go with yet so not seen him show down anything.

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Folded to me on button an I (186) raise to 3 with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB villain (125) an BB (28) call.

Flop $9

J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

check, check, check

Turn $9

4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

villain bets 1, BB folds, I raise to 5, villain raises to 9, I make it 30 an villain calls pretty quickly.

River $69

T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

villain bets 20

I...

Im obviously not folding but do i have to raise or should i just call. Just calling seems really weak but i feel that if i raise a lone J folds an a boat calls.

meh

thanks,

Paul
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Old 08-06-2005, 05:09 PM
2PAUL2 2PAUL2 is offline
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Default Re: Flush on paired board

anyone? or is it that easy [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 08-06-2005, 05:25 PM
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Default Re: Flush on paired board

i don't like the turn action 4 betting. This is definitely a time to just call the river: river is either a value or blocking bet, either way I think its best to just call.
The possibilities are:
A boat is betting for value into your obvious strenght
A worse flush or lone jack is putting out a blocking bet and will probably fold.
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Old 08-06-2005, 05:37 PM
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Default Re: Flush on paired board

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Seems solid, has been checkraising my contnuation bets a decent amount

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Sidenote, I wouldn't consider that good play from villain
Bob Ciaffone; "a check-raising style shows you are thinking about the game in the wrong way. Your goal in no-limit holdem is to win all your opponent's money, not take little pecks."
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Old 08-06-2005, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: Flush on paired board

why no bet on the flop?
I like just calling on the river, he could have 44/33/jt, but he could also have a dry jack or a low flush looking for a cheap showdown.
Noah
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Old 08-06-2005, 09:25 PM
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Raising is suicidal in my tight opinion. I like betting out on that flop unless there has been alot of check raises going on.

As it goes, flat call the 9 and see what villan does on river. As it goes, I call the 20 and expect to see a fh 75% of the time.
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Old 08-07-2005, 12:23 AM
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Default Re: Flush on paired board

bet flop-call river

i dont see anything u beat calling another raise.
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Old 08-07-2005, 07:27 AM
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why no bet on the flop?

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I usually auto bet most flops heads up an 3 way but villain..

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has been checkraising my contnuation bets a decent amount

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and i really didnt want to be checkraised off a nice draw.

But apart from that the responses seem to suggest what i already felt, that i donked this one big time.

I pushed the river an he called instantly with TJ. Just wanted to make sure i wasnt being results orientated. Dont think i get a call off a lone J here.

Thanks

Paul
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