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Old 04-28-2005, 01:42 AM
MagicFlea MagicFlea is offline
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Default learning to fold

I've been beating myself up lately over not folding to turn raises and the like... I've stopped winning lately, and its either a) my good luck stopped b)bad luck or almost certainly c) I'm not nearly as good as I thought I was.

Anywho

today I'm doing ok, but i'd be doing great if it weren't for
10 or so BB lost on hands where I get raised and I say "man I know I'm beat" then call down. So here's a couple of me trying to fix that problem

Hand 1;

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (7 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, CO calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

Hand 2:

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, CO folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (11.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 12.75 BB

bleh... looking at these again its pretty obvious this is a huge weak spot in my game. These both look terrible... I'll try and give an analysis before I get ripped apart.

Hand 1: I think I either call the flop raise and lead again on the turn, folding to a raise, or 3-bet and check fold the turn, confident that if he bets the turn he's not fearing a check-raise and MHING.

Hand 2: The only thing I can think of here is to call the river and hope he had AJ... I had to call the turn because a river queen is going to win me 2 or 3 more BB giving me the right implied odds.
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