5-10 , winning % at showdown

[solidswede]

Interested to see what kind of % people have with
winning %$at SD. Mostly from people playing 5-10 to 15-30, since the lower levels will have more players in and you can beat the game at a lower %. Over the last 45k I have averaged 54.29% and that has resulted in a winning BB/100 hands of 0.53.
With my current VPIP of 17 and going to showdown 30% I need to win 53% of the showdons to breakeven and if I win 57% of the time I'm a 2BB/100 hands winner. Comments?

[Nomad84]

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With my current VPIP of 17 and going to showdown 30% I need to win 53% of the showdons to breakeven and if I win 57% of the time I'm a 2BB/100 hands winner. Comments?

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How can you come to this conclusion? Win rate is affected by the times you win without a showdown, how much you lose when you lose a hand, the size of the pots you win, etc. It's a lot more complicated than "if I win X% of my showdowns, then I will have a win rate of Y BB/100." I can tell you how to increase your W$SD. Just reduce your WtSD. Of course, your win rate will probably drop.

[solidswede]

The conclussion is from the 45k hands I have played. I want nothing general, I understand the math and logic. Give me specifics from your play please

[Aces McGee]

Dude, you asked for comments at the end of your post. Why ask for them if you're not going to listen?

-McGee

[solidswede]

Fair enough, I should have stated specifics in op

[Aces McGee]

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Fair enough, I should have stated specifics in op

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In all seriousness, you'd probably be better off listening to what he had to say.

-McGee

[solidswede]

He is right, it all goes into your winrate. But the pots that goes to showdown are the big ones, usually about 8bb or more. I'm trying to find a point where you go from saying I'm running bad to saying My play does not beat this game. This is only one part of the equation, but I feel it is important. thanks for help.

[bottomset]

oops n/m

[Harv72b]

When you get up to 5/10 and higher, you really can't take a simple PT statistic and use it to judge your play anymore. While just playing ABC poker to get your stats within the accepted norms will work well on the microlimits, and to a lesser extent on 2/4 and even 3/6, when it comes to 5/10 & up the key really is your postflop play. Specifically, maximizing your wins and minimizing your losses on each hand you play.

You also have to take into consideration the fact that fewer hands are going to showdown on these limits. You can (and should) be netting a good deal of your winnings via blind steals and pots won on the turn.

If you do want statistical analysis, then it's probably safe to say that if your WtSD & W$SD are close to normal, but your WR is poor, then you are probably guilty of either overplaying your hands when beaten, or playing too passively when you're good. And probably not stealing the blinds often enough.

[solidswede]

I agree 100% with what you are saying. But if I divide the 45k hands played in 5k hand blocks, the biggest variable of all stats is W%SD and I'm courious to see what others have.