78s. How crazy to get PF?

[Grease]

Game in question is very loose, sometimes loose passive, sometimes loose aggressive. Based on a true story. What do you guys do here and why?

Hand 1:

You are on the button with 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] The entire table limps to you (dream, right?). People go too far with their hands, and they obviously play way too many. Your move?

Same game. You are on the button with 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] again. The entire table limps to you again. You call. The SB raises. His raise here means any two broadway, any suited ace, any PP over 10. The entire table calls back to you. Your play?

[DRKEVDC]

I call with both and dump if I don't hit the flop perfect.

[Chris Daddy Cool]

I raise 1 and just call 2.

[Justin A]

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I call with both and dump if I don't hit the flop perfect.

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That's no way to play poker.

[RcrdBoy]

I call both of these, but I think raising #1 has merits.

[Bodhi]

I call both. I see no reason to raise #1 because my opponents will pay-off regardless of the size of the pot on the flop. Even then, it looks like a lot of you are suffering from FPS.

[brettbrettr]

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I call both. I see no reason to raise #1 because my opponents will pay-off regardless of the size of the pot on the flop. Even then, it looks like a lot of you are suffering from FPS.

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Its not FPS if you have an equity edge.

[Grease]

I called in both circumstances, but think that raising in hand 1 could be correct here, especially if I play much better than my opponents and can get away from unprofitable flops.

[TStoneMBD]

raise hand 1 because you have equity edge and are inflating the pot in position which is just good poker.

dont reraise hand 2 because its very bad if the pot ends up capped. you have also inflated the pot so greatly that you are giving a hand like JcTs correct odds postflop to chase a runner runner flush draw and bust your 8 high flush.


im not sure how correct my logic is here on some of these points so feel free to correct me if you see otherwise.

I'm not sure whether this hand has an equity edge preflop or not, but if it does i think raising in both situations would be correct.

With hand 2, I'm not seeing how anyone is going to fold preflop even if you raise and SB caps. I guess BB could but everyone else has invested 2 small bets already, why would they fold for 2 more?