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11-10-2005, 04:18 AM
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Big Lick Bellagio 30
Button in this hand has only been sitting for 2 orbits, but he got sucked out on by a gambooling tourish who 5-bet preflop with 76s and backed a straight against either his AA top set or AK TPTK (probably TPTK since it was clear someone else in the hand had AK), so he might not be a happy camper. He didn't angrily muck his hand or anything. he just looked kinda shocked. other tendencies I've seen from him is that he appears to be tight (voluntarily played 2 hands in 2 orbits and folded his blinds 3 times to raises) and he played one hand well (he made a good value raise)
SB is too loose preflop because he's bored but plays postflop well aside from being a bit too tight. Button open raises, SB calls, I call in the BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Flop J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] SB checks, I bet (for a few reasons. I don't like checkraising live with big hands because I feel like they fold too easily. also I have been donking some sub-par hands against weak players and I would like to show down a donked two pair. the main reason is because I don't think that well live and play much better when I'm in the lead), button calls, SB folds Turn 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] I bet, Button thinks for 90-120 seconds and calls. I decide I'm betting any river except a non-diamond A in which case I'm checkraising River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] I bet, button raises, I call. ok? 
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#3
11-10-2005, 04:23 AM
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Re: Big Lick Bellagio 30
I feel like youre stuck between the made flush on the turn that sandbagged 1 extra street and the weird AQ-type hand that is pulling a river bluff. Youre probably good here 1 in 9 because he A)rarely has the flush draw to think so hard on the turn B) if he did have it to think so hard it's not a FD he'd likely be confident raising... though I really have no idea how live games like this play.
How was vegas? Is there a trip report somewhere? Surf
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#5
11-10-2005, 04:45 AM
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Re: Big Lick Bellagio 30
i think its a good river call. if he has a diamond legitimately worth raising on this river he would have called the turn much faster. for that reason only i like your bet/call.
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#6
11-10-2005, 04:54 AM
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Re: Big Lick Bellagio 30
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what a weird hand. not sure what on earth he is rasing here with on the river that given that he went in the tank on the turn. i smell a bluffy. nice call. [/ QUOTE ] I can only see josh losing this if the guy had turned the nut flush.
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#7
11-10-2005, 10:24 AM
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Re: Big Lick Bellagio 30
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Button in this hand has only been sitting for 2 orbits, but he got sucked out on by a gambooling tourish who 5-bet preflop with 76s and backed a straight against either his AA top set or AK TPTK (probably TPTK since it was clear someone else in the hand had AK), so he might not be a happy camper. He didn't angrily muck his hand or anything. he just looked kinda shocked. other tendencies I've seen from him is that he appears to be tight (voluntarily played 2 hands in 2 orbits and folded his blinds 3 times to raises) and he played one hand well (he made a good value raise) SB is too loose preflop because he's bored but plays postflop well aside from being a bit too tight. [/ QUOTE ] These kinds of reads suckses. Can't you give me some numbers? I am having a hard time finding a hand to beat when raised on the river here. Sure he's grumpy, but your read is that he's kind of solid. This is an interesting situation: you don't know if he's capable of a river bluff raise; so should you check-call, bet-call or bet-fold? I would imagine people are more inclined to make a bluff bet than a bluff raise, so I'm thinking check-call might be better than bet-call, but I hate missing out on river value here. So I can't decide. Help everyone! Guy.
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#8
11-10-2005, 10:56 AM
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Re: Big Lick Bellagio 30
This is why the river bet stinks. Check/call.
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#9
11-10-2005, 11:39 AM
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Re: Big Lick Bellagio 30
Irrelevant to the river play, but part of the reason you checkraise this flop is that your hand looks like a flush draw to a suspicious, possibly steaming, player and you can get two more big bets later if it looks like your draw missed and you sexy.
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