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Old 08-13-2004, 09:44 AM
Fiddler Fiddler is offline
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Default JJ in CO and overcards

UTG seemed decent.

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, MP1 calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: 6.25 BB

I've been trying to be more aggressive and this worked out nicely but it could have gone very differently if someone had shown a little strength on the flop. Would you fold to flop bet? A flop check raise? I think I would have folded with two overcards on the board.

And what about a bet and a call on the flop before it gets to me, would that be an obvious fold?
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Old 08-13-2004, 09:51 AM
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Default Re: JJ in CO and overcards

Looks good.

I wouldn't fold the flop for a bet, if I had to call more than one cold though I might.
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Old 08-13-2004, 09:54 AM
Rico Suave Rico Suave is offline
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Default Re: JJ in CO and overcards

Sin808:

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I wouldn't fold the flop for a bet,

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I would most likely fold the flop for one bet.

--Rico
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Old 08-13-2004, 02:43 PM
imsomoney imsomoney is offline
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Default Re: JJ in CO and overcards

With a rainbow flop a bettor and a caller could only reasonably hold a pair or a straight draw (with the second option being less likely since you're holding two jacks). If someone bet into your PF raise, and esp. if someone calls that bet, it is safe to assume that you're behind in the hand to at least a pair of Ks or Qs and should probably lay it down on the flop, and def. lay it down if you don't improve on the turn.
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Old 08-13-2004, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: JJ in CO and overcards

Looks good to me. If you're first in on the flop you need to bet and take control of the hand. I'm with Rico though, if someone bets in front on the flop I'm outta there.
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Old 08-13-2004, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: JJ in CO and overcards

I dunno if I would fold this for one bet, but a bet and a call, yes
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