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Old 12-27-2005, 01:29 PM
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Default Re: Gosh... AQ against a donk. Party 30+3 w/ 250 entrants

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Old 12-27-2005, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: Gosh... AQ against a donk. Party 30+3 w/ 250 entrants

Reraise to 1400 preflop, push any flop?
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:33 PM
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Reraise to 1400 preflop, push any flop?

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YOU, stay out of my SnGs.

Yeah, I mean this call line would be my standard with AA-TT and probably AK. I thought I was pushing it w/ AQ, but the donkyness of the player made me think I could do that. Then again, you can't bluff a calling station...which is what she ends up being.
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:44 PM
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Reraise to 1400 preflop, push any flop?

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YOU, stay out of my SnGs.

Yeah, I mean this call line would be my standard with AA-TT and probably AK. I thought I was pushing it w/ AQ, but the donkyness of the player made me think I could do that. Then again, you can't bluff a calling station...which is what she ends up being.

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The $33s are MY SNGs, find your own.

Anyway, i don't like playing it the way you did. Most donks don't think about their opponents hand. They play theirs. So bluffing these people isn't very profitable. If you decide to get it all in preflop (or close to it), with what is likely the best hand in this Button/BB situation, I think you will come out ahead more often than not.

If you feel the need to call preflop, I think checkraising all in on the flop could scare the donk, just because "I saw Phil Ivey checkraise all in this one time and he had 10-10, so you must have flopped quads, and im not paying it off."
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:34 PM
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I hate messing with donks, because they tend to be calling stations. The only hand you are beating on the flop is K high, in my opinion, with maybe an AJ, A9 if she has liberal raising standards. I would give up once the donk raised you on the flop. She's serious about something, which probably isn't a whole lot, but it has to beat AQ. Odds of you getting her off of it are very slim after she raised preflop and then tossed in a re-raise on the flop.
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Old 12-27-2005, 02:18 PM
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I hate messing with donks, because they tend to be calling stations. The only hand you are beating on the flop is K high, in my opinion, with maybe an AJ, A9 if she has liberal raising standards. I would give up once the donk raised you on the flop. She's serious about something, which probably isn't a whole lot, but it has to beat AQ. Odds of you getting her off of it are very slim after she raised preflop and then tossed in a re-raise on the flop.

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I don't think this is quite true. Firstly, her raise PF was SCREAMING "let me raise in LP to try to steal", so I really put her on any two. On teh flop I'm ahead of basically any two broadway cards except AK or a pair. Villian could also have any pair 99 or below and think I have a T. I thought there was a lot of value to leading out and hopefully scaring her out of her attempt to steal PF thinking to herself "oops, I got caught stealing, darn".
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Old 12-27-2005, 02:25 PM
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Old 12-27-2005, 03:07 PM
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here's what you're looking for. Enjoy.

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Yep, and I just bookmarked it.

I guess I got confused about the original thread, and was actually referancing when Lethalrose says "I think what jason is refering to is players who will checkraise a small stacked opponent, not taking into account they are pot commited. And doing this with air. Very bad.. "

I think this is a very valid point, and I want to avoid doing that.
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