I haven't posted a hand in a while....

Newt_Buggs · #1 09-07-2005, 10:03 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter

Button (t1765)
SB (t945)
BB (t1565)
UTG (t1305)
UTG+1 (t975)
Hero (t945)
MP2 (t1000)
CO (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t30, Hero raises to t120, 2 folds, Button calls t120, 2 folds, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: (t315) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t200, Button calls t200.

Turn: (t715) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
hero?

$215, no reads

#2 09-07-2005, 10:23 PM

(I play at the $11s-22s)

I bet 200 again. If hes on a flush draw he should fold thinking that the small bet means I probably have a Q. If that doesnt win it right there, I vomit, then check/fold.

Melchiades · #3 09-07-2005, 10:27 PM

I also go for the vomit option.

Degen · #4 09-07-2005, 10:35 PM

yick

at the 33's or even 55's i'd just bet small, but here i'm almost certain a 15% pot sized bet would get raised...i probably break another mouse and check/fold this turn

Newt_Buggs · #5 09-08-2005, 12:46 AM

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at the 33's or even 55's i'd just bet small, but here i'm almost certain a 15% pot sized bet would get raised...

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Is that necessarily a bad thing?

bigt439 · #6 09-08-2005, 02:19 AM

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at the 33's or even 55's i'd just bet small, but here i'm almost certain a 15% pot sized bet would get raised...

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Is that necessarily a bad thing?

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Check and re-evaluate is my standard line. This is hugely read dependant and you should have a good one considering this is level 2 and he's doubled up or close to it.

MSUcougar · #7 09-08-2005, 03:09 AM

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Check and re-evaluate is my standard line. This is hugely read dependant and you should have a good one considering this is level 2 and he's doubled up or close to it.

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I agree with this... If he pushes behind on the turn I think I probably call depending on reads. If he checks behind, I probably check the river as well (not necessarily conceding the hand, but willing to fold).

I usually just go with my gut in these spots...

curtains · #8 09-08-2005, 06:08 AM

I would check, and often be convinced to call a bet on the turn/river. Pot is too big and I have just 620 chips left. Also if Im behind my opponent has very few outs, so I don't mind giving them a chance to bluff.

I know the pot is giant compared to your stack and I generally don't like giving free cards in such situations, but this is a special case as its very unlikely your opponent has more than just a few outs, and it's very reasonable that he may bluff here (with a counterfeited 22-66), and/or decide his higher pocket pair is good, whereas he might get scared off if you were to bet. Also in a headsup situation like this I generally assume that its unlikely my opponent has a flush draw, especially since they would often raise the flop in such a case.

Also if you check and your opponent has a queen, you may sometimes end up with a few hundred chips at the end of the hand....some of these guys love to slowplay to the max. Bascially I don't care about getting value for my hand anymore, I just want to have some chips left if Im losing and or induce a bluff if Im winning.

Karak567 · #9 09-08-2005, 08:48 AM

I check/call any bet.

Think about it, the only thing calling your bet on the turn here is something that beats you.

So the only way to make this more of a +EV call is to induce an opponent to bluff with his ace high and then call that down.

Pushing or betting here accomplishes nothing. Any hand you beat will fold and any hand that beats you will call.