Matusow hand analysis @ Final Table - 2nd hand

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Lazars stack size dosen't give mike a chance to get away from his hand. Had lazar had another million in chips and made a regular preflop reraise to 650-800k there's a chance mike can get away from his hand. But with these stack sizes and his huge opening reraise theres no way for mike to know his hand is no good before he's basically priced into calling once he reraises even if he doesn't push.

[m1illion]

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the only way he could have saved himself chips is if Shahram "Sean" Sheikhan was on the final table.

Mike could have told Sheikhan that he's fuking lucky to be here. Sheikhan would ask for a penalty, Mike would have to sit out for 10 minutes, and therefore fold kings. Then he would run over the table, and the Ace Jack would fold instead of raising all in.

Mike would be the champ, then everytime you would go to a casino, someone would start insulting everyone like an idiot. ESPN would get huge ratings, and next year you'll have bunch of Mike clones imitating him to get on EPSN. Thus changing poker society for the worse, new players would be called idiots by bunch of Mike clones, and they would drop the game. Finally ending the fish supply, downgrading the popularity of poker, and putting poker to death.

In summary, if mike wins, poker dies

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my vote for stupidest post of the year

I'm curious to see what you thought about Lazar's move to go all-in. Could it have been better to make some kind of trap?

I mean.. second hand final table. Easy for people to fold at that point maybe.

What if Mike didnt pick up the kings?

Couldnt a smaller reraise be better?

[Fletch46]

It wouldn't be the first time or second that someone folded K's at a final table and the person who did went on to win.

[Vincent Lepore]

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You're just trolling, Vince.

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I was going to reply to you Howard but becaue of your response I think you are "STILL" the same ASS you've allways been. I guess you will never change. You should be proud though. More and more you are becoming the Paul Phillips you truly want to be.

vince

[familyteeth]

Tommy Vu must have had a similar thought,
Raise, reraise allin and Tommy agonizes and lays down KK
vs JJ and QQ
flop K rag rag turn K
he actually started crying

Tommy's stack was 156k at the time, 2nd or 3rd at his table and he was covered, can't remember more details, but Brandon Lee was in MP at the time, but I was shocked at the laydown

[MushashiAce]

Alright, so we all know how Matusow went broke in the WSOP ME with Tens vs. A J off. Well right after that happend, I began to think and critique what Mike could have done wrong that hand, and my underlying conclusion was that based on the pressure of the blinds and the amount in the pot, and the call with Mike's re-raise pre-flop, Mikey should have gone all in to kill the most likely A-face card gut shot draws that his opponent was holding, and could semi-bluff with. Mind you, my belief was that since he only feared higher pockets, and Ace-face is much a calling hand here, that he should have just killed the pot on the flop with so much money in it.

Well, me and my friends play a real friendly Ten dollar buy in every Sunday, No limit sit & go style, no rebuys. Long story short, it comes down to me and my other friend who we'll call Goof-ball. Now when we first began playing these weekly games, we set real peculiar Blinds and buy in stacks, so each stack starts with @ 10-12 timjes the blinds.
Well, its heads up and I'm the dealer, and I get dealt pocket Jacks. Antes are .50 and $1. My stack is at @ $30, and goof-ball has @ $50. My opponent limps pre-flop and I bet around three dollars. He calls. Flop is 5d 4d 2d, and he checks. now since there is @ $8 dollars in the pot, I bet 6$, and cure enough goof-ball re-raises all in.
Now I'm thinking back to all the harassment I gave Mikey's hanbd i9n the WSOP, and sure enough I'm in the very same spot! I keep on telling goof-ball that he's got Ad t or Ad, Q, and I know I'm right, but I can't help jinxing myself cause of everything I said about Mikey's hand. Sure enough, I call, and goof-ball has Ad Tc. So what happens after this? A 3c comes of the turn, same as the WSOP, and I end up winning second. I made the same play that I ripped on Mikey for making! Just goes to show you that you can second guess someone's play until your in the same driving seat. Congrats mike in a stellar WSOP performance! [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[teamdonkey]

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Raise - Reraise - what hands do you put Lazaar on? Aces! muck the kings.

Vince

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"Phil Ivey has the button in seat 6, he comes in for a standard raise, Black reraises, and Ivey pulls some chips from his stack to shuffle them in one hand while he holds his cards in the other. Ivey counts out the chips and reraises right back at Black (I believe the amount is $500,000). Andrew Black, who is wearing his sunglasses upside-down (Marcel Luske-style), is taking his time here. Black moves all in"

raise, re-raise, re-re-raise, re-re-re-raise all in - what hands do you put Black on here?

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there was enough re-raising going on that there was absolutely no reason to put Lazaar on only AA.

[Howard Treesong]

Do you seriously contend that Mike should muck the KK? Really? Or are you just posting that to stir the pot? If so, it's a troll post; and I don't mean that other than descriptively. And what, pray tell, does Paul have to do with this discussion?

I don't tend to call you names, Vince. I can't say I've never done it, but I suspect you've cursed at me a dozen times for every time I've cursed at you.

[pokergripes]

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You're just trolling, Vince.

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I was going to reply to you Howard but becaue of your response I think you are "STILL" the same ASS you've allways been. I guess you will never change. You should be proud though. More and more you are becoming the Paul Phillips you truly want to be.

vince

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Come on, not every exchange needs to immediately deteriorate this way. Howard, Vince's post (despite being a bad read of the possible hand range) is hardly "trolling" relative to the kind of crap that gets posted around here. Vince, Howard is by no means "still" an "ass", that's an overstatement of the case...many of his posts, in fact, are quite pithy and entertaining. So, play nice girls [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]