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Another logical call on the bubble...
I posted something like this a few days ago. Some people didn't think it was interesting I still do. Sometimes you know someone can't have what they are implying they have and it's free money if you call. Here is another example of this...
No Limit - Level VI (100/200) Table '8639131 1' Seat #8 is the button Seat 1: HERO (5730 in chips) Seat 4: BettnTibetn (3620 in chips) Seat 5: DucesRDeadly (1870 in chips) Seat 8: Nofxx (2280 in chips) HERO: posts small blind 100 BettnTibetn: posts big blind 200 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Trikenit [Td Qh] DucesRDeadly: folds Nofxx: folds HERO: calls 100 BettnTibetn: checks *** FLOP *** [Jh 3h 3d] HERO: checks BettnTibetn: checks *** TURN *** [Jh 3h 3d] [3c] HERO: checks BettnTibetn: checks *** RIVER *** [Jh 3h 3d 3c] [7d] HERO: checks BettnTibetn: bets 300 HERO said, "u would have moved in with big cards preflop" HERO: calls 300 *** SHOW DOWN *** BettnTibetn: shows [8d 2c] (three of a kind, Threes) HERO: shows [Td Qh] (three of a kind, Threes - Queen kicker) HERO collected 1000 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 1000 | Rake 0 Board [Jh 3h 3d 3c 7d] Seat 1: HERO (small blind) showed [Td Qh] and won (1000) with three of a kind, Threes Seat 4: BettnTibetn (big blind) showed [8d 2c] and lost with three of a kind, Threes Seat 5: DucesRDeadly folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: Nofxx (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) this was the same situation as the other one. If I limped instead of pushing he pushed, this time he didn't. |
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Re: Another logical call on the bubble...
lol
couldn't find the "bet" button on any of the streets? |
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Re: Another logical call on the bubble...
No no, check is good, then you encourage a bluff where you can call with Qhigh.
This is bad play because I don't think he'd push Kx and hitting the 7 on the river was far from unlikely. This hand should never have come to showdown |
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Re: Another logical call on the bubble...
he would push about 80% of the time I limped. So i believe yes he would push a King. And the only card I was afraid of was the 7. But obviously i have to call.
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Re: Another logical call on the bubble...
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he would push about 80% of the time I limped [/ QUOTE ] ...quit limping. seriously. you're comment in the HH gives me the impression HE was bullying YOU (where YOU=chip leader). "ha, i know i have you beat cuz you didn't squash me like a bug this time!!". your call and subsequent collecting of the chips would have been sufficient. providing your deductive reasoning only solidifies villians belief that he owns you. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] anyway....fold your garbage, hit him hard when you have something (and occasionally when you don't [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]) |
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Re: Another logical call on the bubble...
QT is not a trapping hand. Raise preflop. Unless you have such superior reads that you can play any two against this joker for a profit.
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Re: Another logical call on the bubble...
I don't agree that pushing all the time is right. I push a lot but I also limp a lot, and I raise a lot. People here are always like Push this and push that. You say push this hand...But what if I told you I pushed the last 3 hands in a row?? Then what would you say? You can't say push this hand because you don't know my table image at the moment.
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Re: Another logical call on the bubble...
why bet when you have the best hand here??? I am confused. You think I should bet the turn? I rather take a chance and get paid for my good hand.
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Re: Another logical call on the bubble...
Nick, you didn't say what buyin this was, but I assume from the Tourney Masters board, this is a $109+.
Thank you for the post. I agree with your assessment. Villain has a very weak hand here. I also agree that if villain had a K, he'd very likely check it through. These aren't calls I would make. Perhaps I need to spend more time thinking about. This hand just feels like one of those "first to bet" takes the hand. But I see now how after the river, this is a little different. I agree, this is an interesting hand. Good luck at the tables. Scuba |
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Re: Another logical call on the bubble...
you know what I think is the most interesting part is...after you check the flop to him and he checks behind, you have to check it out to give him a chance to bluff. See people say ohhh why didn't you bet?? because unless i bet the flop right away there is no reason to bet the turn or the river, cause I need to give him a chance to bluff. See if I know he doesn't have an Ace or a King, because he would have pushed preflop, then when the 3rd 3 falls on the turn i HAVE to check the turn cause I most likely have the best hand. I can't bet cause he'll fold...or worse raise me hahaha.
And this is a 16 PS turbo, if this were something higher i would have pushed. You can't push like a mad man on the 16 turbos the donks call your azz...it sucks. |
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