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Old 07-20-2005, 11:21 AM
fnord_too fnord_too is offline
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Default Re: \"No Set No Bet\"

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With your preflop raise, it's quite possible he does that with a king to overbet it.

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That is a thinking play though. If villain is a thinker and tricky, I am much more apt to lay down. BUT, if he (the thinking player) is not doing this with hands weaker than TT some, too, he is giving up a lot of info, and would be better off checking the flop. (The giving off a lot of info bit is important since, so far, I tend to see the thinking players a lot more than the non thinking ones. That is, at any given table there will be on average more non thinking players, but most of the people I have any appreciable number of hands on are decent or better.)
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Old 07-20-2005, 01:32 PM
45suited 45suited is offline
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Default Re: \"No Set No Bet\"

JJ and TT have significant value and do there are very, very many situations where they can and should be played for more than set value. Your raise with TT here is perfectly acceptable.
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Old 07-20-2005, 01:38 PM
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Default Re: \"No Set No Bet\"

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I know I don't have time to, so I just play erratic, err, I mean, mix up my game and play hands in different ways...)

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What buy-in do you usually play? IMO, unless you are playing at the highest buy-ins (where you see the same opponents frequently and they probably pay attention to how you play) mixing up your game and playing hands differently has little to no value in and of itself. (Other than you getting used to playing hands in different ways.)

By this I mean that sometimes I see players write that they don't want to play hand X a certain way every time they get it because then their opponents would know what they had. But the pool of players at almost all the levels below the 55s is so big and your opposition pays so little attention that this is not even a consideration for me.
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Old 07-20-2005, 05:23 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: \"No Set No Bet\"

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All right, I realize that there's a philosophy of "no set no bet" around here

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No there isn't.

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i think there is, but there's a context to it. if you limp 44 in level 1 in a 5-way pot and start putting a bunch of chips in when you don't have a set, the forum will (correctly) heckle.

but this obviously doesn't apply here; it'd be like check-folding AA on the flop because you "miss."
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