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raise all-in 20 58.82%
raise less than all-in 8 23.53%
call 6 17.65%
fold 0 0%
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Old 11-15-2005, 04:07 PM
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Default American Fottball: When to Go for Two

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Old 11-15-2005, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: American Fottball: When to Go for Two

WRONG FORUM YOU FUKCING NUB!!
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Old 11-15-2005, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: American Fottball: When to Go for Two

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WRONG FORUM YOU FUKCING NUB!!

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simmer down now
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Old 11-15-2005, 04:16 PM
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Default Damn Software !!

Damn bug in the software won't let me correct the title to FOOTBALL. Says I have not completed all the fields. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 11-15-2005, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: American Fottball: When to Go for Two

you rarely go for 2 outside the 4th quarter
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Old 11-15-2005, 04:17 PM
Felix_Nietsche Felix_Nietsche is offline
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Default Re: American Football: When to Go for Two

I never knew there was a sports forum.
There are too many forums in my opinion.
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Old 11-15-2005, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: American Fottball: When to Go for Two

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you rarely go for 2 outside the 4th quarter

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I concur. But don't most coaches blindly follow their precious chart?
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Old 11-15-2005, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: American Fottball: When to Go for Two

Didn't need to read past "It is the 1st quarter" and "It is the 3rd quarter" to vote no on the first 2.

3rd one is close, I gave the slight edge to yes. People might say but if you miss and they kick a field goal you're down my 8 and need 2 points, but I don't like the chances that you'd gonna hold a team that's put up 41 on you and is driving to a field goal.

I could see an argument against going for 2 based on the fact that there's 13 minutes left and you're in a shootout, so who cares about a 3 vs. 4. vs. 5 point deficit.
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Old 11-15-2005, 04:41 PM
Felix_Nietsche Felix_Nietsche is offline
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Default No, No, and No.

Going for two is -EV. There is a 34% chance of success. To go for two to make sense, you have to ASSUME the other team won't score anymore points. In the 3rd question, there is 13 minutes left in the game which is a LOT OF TIME. Since the score is 41-36, you can't think your defense which has already allowed 41 points will shut the other team out the rest of the way.

Consider these scenarios:
Scenario #1 (successful two point conversion)
41-38 then
44-38 (now a touchdown + a kick will put you in the lead)

Scenario #2 (2 point try fails)
41-36
44-36 (now you need a touchdown + 2 point play just to tie)

Scenario #3 (1 point try, sucess)
41-37
44-37 (A touchdown + Kick will tie.)

Going for something with a 34% success rate is not good.
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Old 11-15-2005, 04:48 PM
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Default Re: American Fottball: When to Go for Two

you rarely go for 2 outside the 4th quarter
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Agreed.
What % of coaches do you think understand this? I say maybe 10%.
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