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06-12-2005, 09:35 AM
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Re: Solving the bot problem
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[ QUOTE ] detected bot usage will render a fine of $10k or more. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, this makes a lot of sense. [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Please explain what confuses you. 
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06-12-2005, 09:39 AM
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Re: Solving the bot problem
And how would the site prove that the user actually used a bot? The false alarms would probably make the problem worse than it is.
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06-12-2005, 09:44 AM
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Re: Solving the bot problem
What happens when this headline hits: "Party Poker stole my $10K".
Players need to trust the site and taking $10K for allegations of cheating (after all trying to conclusively prove someone is using a bot is very hard) will spread fear amongst their customers and they'll move to a site where they know their money will be safe.
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06-12-2005, 09:47 AM
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Re: Solving the bot problem
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And how would the site prove that the user actually used a bot? The false alarms would probably make the problem worse than it is. [/ QUOTE ] Party have banned accounts, mainly for use of the WH bot. Exactly how they find the bots are a bit of a secret from Paryt's side, but there have obvously been cases of compelling evidence since accounts have been closed down. Remeber; they only have to find *one* bot with full certainty and use legal enforcement to show bot users what may happen.
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06-12-2005, 09:50 AM
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Re: Solving the bot problem
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What happens when this headline hits: "Party Poker stole my $10K". Players need to trust the site and taking $10K for allegations of cheating (after all trying to conclusively prove someone is using a bot is very hard) will spread fear amongst their customers and they'll move to a site where they know their money will be safe. [/ QUOTE ] The headline would be more like "Party sues bot user for $10k". I'm not talking about some random private enforcement, I mean for Party to go to court. They wouldn't win a case without strong evidence, and they sure wouldn't sue without full certainty of bot usage. I believe that if the bot problem is not addressed soon, we will have no fish instead of less fish.
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06-12-2005, 10:07 AM
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Re: Solving the bot problem
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I'm not talking about some random private enforcement, I mean for Party to go to court. [/ QUOTE ] Your posts here are making more and more sense. Please go on.
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06-12-2005, 10:11 AM
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Re: Solving the bot problem
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Party have banned accounts, mainly for use of the WH bot. Exactly how they find the bots are a bit of a secret from Paryt's side, but there have obvously been cases of compelling evidence since accounts have been closed down. [/ QUOTE ] WinHoldem users were easy to identify becasue Party support knew what software to look for. However, for many bots party doesn't have access tot he source code or software, so they are hard to identify.
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06-12-2005, 10:14 AM
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Re: Solving the bot problem
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I can't believe I get no positive replies, I might as well have posted this in the WH forum... [/ QUOTE ] Well, it's good that you pointed out that party could punish the bot users somehow.
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#20
06-12-2005, 10:24 AM
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Re: Solving the bot problem
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WinHoldem users were easy to identify becasue Party support knew what software to look for. However, for many bots party doesn't have access tot he source code or software, so they are hard to identify. [/ QUOTE ] People are still being busted when using WH (from their forum, it's apparent there are many newbies being detected almost instantly). Party would need only *one* solid case and take it to court, to send a clear message to all bot users. This would scare away a very large number of bots.
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