Interesting bot news

[Rah]

It's a possibility of course, but on the other hand, there are a lot of discussions with a range of users, many different styles of writing represented.
There are reports from people failing to make money, as well as reports from people making money. I'd say that the probability that it's all a fake is very small.

[JunieB]

Question about Winholdem and Poker Tracker.....If a bunch of people are using the same bot code, wouldn't their Poker Tracker stats all be the same? So if I see VPIP=18, PFR=8, Avg Agg = 2.1 on 400 hands, either it's Winholdem or just another good player I want to avoid anyway? Does anyone know what stats Winholdem will converge to in the long run?

[Rah]

Since most of the people seem to make their own setup, it probably isn't likely. Plus, if they make nice bots, they'd probably have about the same stats as many 2+2ers.

[MycroftX]

is that the East Bridgewater Viking?

[pokerjo22]

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I'm not being facetious at all, but how do you know those posts are real? It would make sense for the author to put them up to boost sales. Not saying that's necessarily true, but just asking why you think it isn't.

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A few months ago Ray Bonnet (the author of WinHoldem) consistently had 'conversations' with himself and 'customers' over on RGP. He wasn't very good at it, as it was obviously the same guy. I'm 99% certain that the posts over on their forums are legit. Like the other poster said, lots of different writing styles etc. From what I understand WinHoldem isn't a great piece of software and its a bitch to code. But its only a tool, designed to allow your code to interface with the poker site. A lot of the decisions at low limit holdem are so automatic that it would amaze me if people WEREN'T able to code those decisions to make a profitable bot.

[CountDuckula]

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[gaming_mouse]

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It's a possibility of course, but on the other hand, there are a lot of discussions with a range of users, many different styles of writing represented.
There are reports from people failing to make money, as well as reports from people making money. I'd say that the probability that it's all a fake is very small.

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Rah,

Looking the posts over myself I agree with you.

JunieB,

There is no way those stats converge fast enough for you to have sufficient evidence you were playing against the same bot. Not to mention it sounds like different people make different adjustments to the AI. Unfortuneatly, PT is just not an effective counter-measure.

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[tripdad]

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they'd probably have about the same stats as many 2+2ers.

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so, in general, one could assume that the resident LAG is either a 2+2'er, or a bot? got it! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

cheers!