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Old 11-23-2005, 09:32 PM
Spicymoose Spicymoose is offline
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Default Re: i bet you should i shouldnt bet

I guess I just have a hard time with those low aces calling all the way down. I guess it happens though. If you were BB with one of those A hands, how would you play it?

Your reasoning is good though, pair hands probably arn't raising us, yet they are betting if we check.

Do you think we ever get check behinds when up against low pairs though? I know its probably not that often, but I have to figure it happens at least a noticable amount of the time?
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Old 11-23-2005, 09:47 PM
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Default Re: i bet you should i shouldnt bet

Unless you've been checkraising river or otherwise been playing very tricky (and winning) recently at that table, there is no way any pair is checking behind. Button will valuebet his deuce here everytime if he's any good.
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Old 11-23-2005, 10:49 PM
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btw nikla i appreciate you taking the time to answer such a basic post. it confuses me why you did though but thanks.
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Old 11-23-2005, 11:01 PM
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Are we going to be able to bet our ace for value more often than we're going to be able to pick up a bluff from busted clubs / retardation?
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Old 11-23-2005, 11:07 PM
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I would check/call right now, but I like the points made about betting.
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Old 11-24-2005, 03:01 AM
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Yeah, betting looks good. If I checked, I'd be folding or CR'ing.
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Old 11-24-2005, 03:28 AM
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Default Re: i bet you should i shouldnt bet

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Yeah, betting looks good. If I checked, I'd be folding or CR'ing.

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i dont think you can argue that c/f is better than c/c
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Old 11-24-2005, 03:39 AM
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Specifically A-3 and A-4 become more likely holdings for villain than they normally would, given the 2-5 on board and him just calling the flop and turn. And this favors betting.

You say it's an aggro game but no specific reads on villain. I think you have to entertain that he may also have AJ and not have capped. It would be a very thin value bet for me, something I need to work on since I would have probably check-called this in the heat of battle.

Edit: To people's comments about inducing a bluff. The problem here is that even a habitual bluffer will often not bluff with a worse ace; which is one of villain's likely holdings. He'll take the free showdown in the hopes that hero was bluffing.
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Old 11-24-2005, 09:42 AM
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Default Re: i bet you should i shouldnt bet

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Yeah, betting looks good. If I checked, I'd be folding or CR'ing.

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i dont think you can argue that c/f is better than c/c

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No, I'm not going to make that argument, but I believe if one did it would be strong.
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