215: AK hand that is driving me crazy

[Newt_Buggs]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

Hero (t910)
MP1 (t1460)
MP2 (t975)
MP3 (t975)
CO (t1160)
Button (t750)
SB (t1545)
BB (t655)
UTG (t1570)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t85</font>, MP1 calls t85, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls t85, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (t300) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t150</font>, MP1 calls t150, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t400</font>, Hero?

no reads

on a side not: Today I started experimenting with 9-12 tabeling the $215s so we will see how that goes.

[Jman28]

I'm not happy with the situation, but I'm folding. AQ is most likely I think. Not too worried about the caller.

[curtains]

ahhh I would just move allin and hope they are some moron. How often does some idiot make some smallish raise where you assume they would only do so unless they had a huge hand, and then turn over AT. The answer is too often.

[fnord_too]

meh, first thought is to call and push any non spade turn.

[durron597]

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meh, first thought is to call and push any non spade turn.

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What do you do if the turn *is* a spade? Fold after investing half your stack?

No, the decision must be made on the flop. What worries me is that he's making this raise into two opponents. The thing though is that with a Q on board and you see two aces there aren't that many ways for him to have AQ, and like curtains says you will see AT a lot here or a silly hand like KQ[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img][img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. I would push.

[fnord_too]

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meh, first thought is to call and push any non spade turn.

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What do you do if the turn *is* a spade? Fold after investing half your stack?



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If it is a spade I check call, bet the river if checked through. My reason for not pushing the flop is not that I am affraid of getting beaten, I am committed to the hand, but that I want to maximize the chance of all his money going into the center if all mine is.

[bugstud]

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meh, first thought is to call and push any non spade turn.

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What do you do if the turn *is* a spade? Fold after investing half your stack?



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If it is a spade I check call, bet the river if checked through. My reason for not pushing the flop is not that I am affraid of getting beaten, I am committed to the hand, but that I want to maximize the chance of all his money going into the center if all mine is.

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I'm not sure that check calling a spade can be right.

[durron597]

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I'm not sure that check calling a spade can be right.

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If he has a hand like A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] check calling the turn is probably the worst thing you can do, IMO.

[deathpotato]

Yeah, unless you know button is good you should probably just push. He'll turn over a flush draw, AJ, AK plenty of times. He'll also obviously turn over AQ quite often but I don't think you can avoid paying him off here unless you know him.

Good luck with the 12-tabling!

[Havok]

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I'm not sure that check calling a spade can be right.

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If he has a hand like A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] check calling the turn is probably the worst thing you can do, IMO.

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Honest question. What are the reasons for pushing here. I've been in this situation numerous times, and the mini raise could mean a lot. From a strong player for example I would worry about AQ or Queens. So why would the push be correct if your behind?