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Old 06-01-2005, 07:16 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: Time to gamble?

Hero folds quickly, because in a game that isn't full of idiots, what will happen is that the button will also call and it'll be checked down 4 handed, and in a game that is, one win with a random hand will get you in the tournament.
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Old 06-01-2005, 07:20 PM
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Hero folds quickly, because in a game that isn't full of idiots, what will happen is that the button will also call and it'll be checked down 4 handed, and in a game that is, one win with a random hand will get you in the tournament.

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Yay someone agrees with me!
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Old 06-01-2005, 07:39 PM
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No one has yet addressed my argument about how 66 is a bad hand multiway - I really think this is a fold.

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I agree because at the very least you'll be up against the limper and the BB. An early limp this late is a dangerous sign, I think (granted, hindsight is 20/20). But you do want a hand that'll play well in a multiway pot because you're practically ensured to have one. Multiway your 66 is only good for set value.

Thinking in a broader sense, though, next time don't get ground down to one big blind.
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Old 06-01-2005, 08:04 PM
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Great advice about not being blinded down so low. Please examine my last 50 hands and let me know where I went wrong... http://www.danina.net/wsop_hands_8377541.txt
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Old 06-01-2005, 08:21 PM
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Great advice about not being blinded down so low. Please examine my last 50 hands and let me know where I went wrong...

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Man your cards were total garbage. I dunno what to tell you.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1200 (9 handed) converter

UTG (t13726)
UTG+1 (t21297)
MP1 (t11280)
MP2 (t29745)
MP3 (t45252)
CO (t59195)
Button (t13621)
SB (t26040)
Hero (t28700)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls t1200, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t3600) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t2400</font>, Hero folds, MP1 calls t2400.

Turn: (t8400) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, MP1 checks.

River: (t8400) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, MP1 checks.

Final Pot: t8400

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Push preflop, unless you have reason to believe that the limper is trapping.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t2000 (7 handed) converter

MP2 (t50954)
CO (t37670)
Button (t78854)
SB (t13643)
BB (t12370)
UTG (t33040)
Hero (t22325)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t13643</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Final Pot: t14243

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Push preflop? Tough spot. I 90% fold, but 10% of me wants to push. How close to the bubble? Just throwing it out there.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t3000 (8 handed) converter

SB (t25170)
BB (t51404)
UTG (t14450)
UTG+1 (t38120)
MP1 (t83554)
MP2 (t15343)
CO (t54510)
Hero (t16425)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t1200

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When your cards were as garbagey as yours, I think I push this because you need chips and you still have FE. Just hope your image is enough to win the blinds!

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t3000 (7 handed) converter

SB (t19470)
BB (t25150)
UTG (t30120)
MP1 (t83554)
MP2 (t23893)
CO (t48810)
Hero (t10725)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t10150</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t11050

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I would rather call here than call with 66 in the OP. Though I'm not a big fan of either play. *shrug*
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Old 06-01-2005, 08:29 PM
tipperdog tipperdog is offline
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Hero folds quickly, because in a game that isn't full of idiots, what will happen is that the button will also call and it'll be checked down 4 handed, and in a game that is, one win with a random hand will get you in the tournament.

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Yay someone agrees with me!

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Unfortunately, he agrees because he misread the post (I think). Only the top prize wins a seat, so "one win with a random hand" won't do it. 2-13 win a nice chunk of change, but 14th basically wins his money back. There are 15 players left, so hero needs to advance TWO spots to collect any real value. There is a slight chance (I'd guess 10-20%%) that hero can fold himself into 14th, but there's VERY little chance he'll fold his way into 13th.

66 sux, but it's playable. That MP1 is a big stack will discourage LP players from getting involved with marginal stacks. You really must go for it here.
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Old 06-01-2005, 08:49 PM
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How is 66 playable in a hand that is almost certain to have 3 opponents? (MP, SB, BB) Not to mention the fact that an EP limp here is suspect, especially now that I've looked at the last 50 hands it's very suspect.
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