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Old 12-14-2005, 10:03 AM
-Skeme- -Skeme- is offline
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Default 97s.

Usually give up by turn, but not on this flop. No read on opponent.. only current read on hand.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed)

Hero ($201.75)
SB ($258.10)
BB ($175.85)
UTG ($247.40)
UTG+1 ($232.60)
MP1 ($298.15)
MP2 ($107.15)
MP3 ($97.45)
CO ($174)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $8, MP3 calls $8.

Flop: ($31) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $16</font>, BB folds, MP3 calls $16.

Turn: ($63) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $72</font>
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:05 AM
Gustavo Gustavo is offline
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Default Re: 97s.

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Old 12-14-2005, 10:06 AM
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Default Re: 97s.

Donate some logic please.
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:08 AM
Lady Dont Tekno Lady Dont Tekno is offline
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Default Re: 97s.

Plan for him calling the turn and checking the river (assume he still checks if a heart or diamond falls)?

Also I've never totally understood overbets, is this a good place to overbet and why?
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:10 AM
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Default Re: 97s.

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Plan for him calling the turn and checking the river (assume he still checks if a heart or diamond falls)?

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I am putting him all in. Please read stack sizes.


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Also I've never totally understood overbets, is this a good place to overbet and why?

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That's what we're trying to figure out.
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:10 AM
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Default Re: 97s.

I'm not a fan of naked bluffs when you have "no read on opponent."
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:10 AM
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Uhh, he folds a flush draw...

Your turn bet makes zero sense at all to me. Usually when someone does this to me I'm just like WTF and say whatever and fold. I guess that's what you were hoping for but I'm not most people.
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:12 AM
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Your turn bet makes zero sense at all to me.

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I think my opponent might fold a draw or a better hand than I. What if I really had Aces here?
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:19 AM
AcesUp2121 AcesUp2121 is offline
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Default Re: 97s.

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Your turn bet makes zero sense at all to me.

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I think my opponent might fold a draw or a better hand than I. What if I really had Aces here?

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I don't think you play aces that way.
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:19 AM
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These games are so easy to beat without this kind of thing that its uncalled for IMO. They will often put all their money in here with A 10 or something similar, so just wait for the goods and save yourself the trouble.
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