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Old 11-15-2005, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: \"Official\" ESPN Coverage of WSOP Main Event: Final Table

Hand 24 - Scott Lazar has the button in seat 9, Matusow raises to $250,000, Dannenmann calls, and Black calls. Three players see the flop of Kc-10d-9h, and they all check. The turn card is the Ah, and they're looking at a potentially dangerous board, with high cards and two hearts. Black checks, Matusow bets $600,000, and the other players fold. Matusow shows 8s-5s as he bluffs himself a pot worth about $1 million.
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Old 11-15-2005, 09:23 PM
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Default Re: \"Official\" ESPN Coverage of WSOP Main Event: Final Table

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Yes, it was. Stop pretending folding the 4th best possible hand is a matter of routine. It's the type of play which gets a player out of bad situations and possibly to the WSOP Main Event final table.

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It's not a matter of routine, but in that situation I think most would agree it's a pretty easy laydown.

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Then most are fooling themselves.

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Um, Ok. Let's get some of the MTT big dogs in here and see what they do with JJ in that situation.
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Old 11-15-2005, 09:24 PM
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Default Re: \"Official\" ESPN Coverage of WSOP Main Event: Final Table

Hand 28 - Daniel Bergsdorf has the button in seat 4, Dannenmann raises to $300,000, and Matusow calls from the small blind. The flop comes 5s-3s-2c, Matusow bets $600,000, and Dannenmann immediately says, "All in." Matusow stops the action to study his opponent. He stands up, leaning out over the table to get a good look at his opponent before calling. Dannenmann shows As-Jc, while Matusow has pocket tens (10d-10c). Dannenmann was semi-bluffing with overcards, and he'll need to catch a four, a jack, or an ace to win the pot.

The turn card is the 4h, and Dannenmann makes a five-high straight to take a commanding lead in this hand. Matusow will need to catch a six or an ace to survive with a straight on the board.

The river card is a 9, and Mike Matusow is eliminated in ninth place, earning $1,000,000.

He walks over to Mark Seif in the crowd, who comforts him, and then the players from the final table all come over to shake his hand. Matusow is composed, but clearly disappointed. He's keeping his composure very well, and there are no outbursts or anger. Matusow is stunned.
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Old 11-15-2005, 09:25 PM
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Default Re: \"Official\" ESPN Coverage of WSOP Main Event: Final Table

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Um, Ok. Let's get some of the MTT big dogs in here and see what they do with JJ in that situation.

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Regardless of what a "big dog" would do, it's still an excellent fold by Dannenmann.
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Old 11-15-2005, 09:25 PM
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Default Re: \"Official\" ESPN Coverage of WSOP Main Event: Final Table

Anyone notice Dannenman all the sudden got serious and stopped chatting it up when he bluffs all-in with A-high? Classic.
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Old 11-15-2005, 09:26 PM
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Default Re: \"Official\" ESPN Coverage of WSOP Main Event: Final Table

Matusow got all his chips into the pot with a 60% chance of doubling up and a 40% chance of being eliminated.

Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 5s 3s 2c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Tc Td 579 58.48 384 38.79 27 2.73 0.598
As Jc 384 38.79 579 58.48 27 2.73 0.402
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Old 11-15-2005, 09:28 PM
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How the hell does Kondracki play TT, opening for 1/2 his stack instead of pushing?

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Why bet over T1,000,000 at a pot with about T250,000 in it? He's got to build a stack. That means he's got to get called when he's got the best of it.

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If the pot has only 250K, then his M is only 4. That's a pushing situation with ten-ten.
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Old 11-15-2005, 09:28 PM
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Default Re: \"Official\" ESPN Coverage of WSOP Main Event: Final Table

Thanks, Dynasty, TV also gave us that nifty 60-40 stat, but he didn't get all his chips in then. He did also get some in preflop.

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Matusow got all his chips into the pot with a 60% chance of doubling up and a 40% chance of being eliminated.

Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 5s 3s 2c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Tc Td 579 58.48 384 38.79 27 2.73 0.598
As Jc 384 38.79 579 58.48 27 2.73 0.402

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Old 11-15-2005, 09:30 PM
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Default Re: \"Official\" ESPN Coverage of WSOP Main Event: Final Table

Poor Matusow. He didn't deserve that 4.
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Old 11-15-2005, 09:30 PM
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Default Re: \"Official\" ESPN Coverage of WSOP Main Event: Final Table

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How the hell does Kondracki play TT, opening for 1/2 his stack instead of pushing?

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Why bet over T1,000,000 at a pot with about T250,000 in it? He's got to build a stack. That means he's got to get called when he's got the best of it.

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If you're going to call a push, why not push yourself, and if you're folding to a push, why put in 1/2 your stack?

Isn't this basic poker as related day in and day out in the MTT forum???
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