stat collection post

[elindauer]

Someone once posted about the odds of 1 pair / 2 pair etc winning at showdown, along with the expected frequency of these hands. This is a great way to determine if you are currently running well / running bad, provided that you are otherwise a winning player.

The problem with this post for me is that I don't know what limit the hands were played at, or the style of the poster. Playing weak-tight vs LAG vs TAG vs LP at 100/200 vs .5/1 etc is going to have, I think, a big impact on these things. A lot fewer hands even reach a showdown as the limits go up.

In an effort to fine tune this research, I'm trying to find these numbers for TAG play in the party mid limits.


Check out the misc tab in pokertracker, select the "only show hands that went to showdown" button, and then please post the following for all hands played between 10/20 and 20/40 at partypoker:

# of hands
% win with 1 pair
% win with 2 pair
% win with trips
% win with str8
% win with flush
% win with full house

and number of times dealt all of the above.


In an effort to do a little filtering on these stats, please include the following general description of your play:

pfr
vp$ip
vp$ip not a blind
postflop AF


If you want to break the numbers out by limit that would be even better (can this be done easily in pokertracker?). Otherwise, perhaps you could mention what limits you play.

If possible, please limit your stats to only those from this year.

Finally, if possible please limit your hands to those played with at least 7 players at the table.

I'll collect the data for a few days and then make a summary post with interesting stats.


thanks,
Eric

[elindauer]

hands: 77,492
showdowns not folded: 10,865
high card: won $ 16.39% 1,005 times
1 pair: 35.88% 2,923
2 pair: 53.4% 1.844
trips: 75.16% 630
str8: 83% 432
flush: 76.72% 314
full: 86.73% 375
4 of a kind: 94.12% 25



vp$ip: 21.8%
pfr: 12.19%
postflop AF: 2.4
went to showdown: 36.24%

[lil feller]

Are these full ring Eric. I always feel like I play so loose in the 15, and my VPIP is like 18. I wonder what you're playing that i'm not to get to 21.8.

My PFR is about 10...interesting. I don't have my PT stuff handy, but i'll post it later.

lf

[elindauer]

[ QUOTE ]
Are these full ring Eric. I always feel like I play so loose in the 15, and my VPIP is like 18. I wonder what you're playing that i'm not to get to 21.8.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'd only be guessing, but I'd speculate that we play differently from the late position and the blinds. If you're anything like the players I've coached, I may even play tighter than you in early position.

I steal a lot, and I defend a lot. When I choose to play, I'm aggressive and stubborn. I try to play ring games the same way I play shorthanded from the same position.

-Eric

[molawn2mo]

hands: 25,216
showdowns not folded: 1,899
high card: won $ 15.15/198
1 pair: 41.08/707
2 pair: 53.89/470
trips: 72.86/172
str8: 88.78/118
flush: 87.50/105
full: 89.13/115
4 of a kind: 100.00/11
royal fl 100.00/1
str8 fl 100.00/2


vp$ip: 17.58
pfr: 11.35
postflop AF: 2.08
went to showdown: 35.32

edit for 10/20 limit

[krishanleong]

[ QUOTE ]
hands: 77,492
showdowns not folded: 10,865
high card: won $ 16.39% 1,005 times
1 pair: 35.88% 2,923
2 pair: 53.4% 1.844
trips: 75.16% 630
str8: 83% 432
flush: 76.72% 314
full: 86.73% 375
4 of a kind: 94.12% 25



vp$ip: 21.8%
pfr: 12.19%
postflop AF: 2.4
went to showdown: 36.24%

[/ QUOTE ]

I can only imagine you are running cold. An aweful W$SD with 1 pair and flushes. I've done similiar analysis in the past here.

link

Krishan

[Brom]

These hands are a mix of 10/20 and 15/30.
VPIP: 15.95%
PFR: 10.53%
Postflop AF: 2.33
Went to SD: 34.38%

Total Hands: 35591
"Went to SD": 2143 (I think that's the column you wanted, all hand numbers came from this column anyways)

1P: 818 / 49.14%
2P: 698 / 66.33%
Trips: 163 / 72.39%
Straight: 108 / 83.33%
Flush: 104 / 86.54%
FH: 107 / 88.79%
Quads: 20 / 80.0%
Straight Flush: 0 / Boo
Royal Flush: 1 / Awesome

This database was started around mid-summer, I'd say about the beginning of July. I start new databases frequently, and don't have an all encompassing one to work with. Is there a way to put them all in one?

[elindauer]

Thanks krishan, this is actually the post I was referring to in the OP. Can you tell us how these hands were collected? Were they all played by you? Random people? At what limits?

My goal is to find these numbers for tight-aggressive play in a particular game. If your 400K database already represents this, then it will save me some time... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

thanks,
eric

[krishanleong]

[ QUOTE ]
Thanks krishan, this is actually the post I was referring to in the OP. Can you tell us how these hands were collected? Were they all played by you? Random people? At what limits?

My goal is to find these numbers for tight-aggressive play in a particular game. If your 400K database already represents this, then it will save me some time... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

thanks,
eric

[/ QUOTE ]

I can't remember. It was from a post title "post your Misc stats tab here", or something like that. There were 4-5 people from 5/10 or 10/20 shorthand who posted screenshots of their misc tab in that thread which is what I based my analysis of. (In combination with my own stats)

Krishan

[shant]

I may be an idiot for this, but I'm having a hard time finding these percentages or the "showdown" checkbox. I'm looking under "Misc. Tabs" so maybe you're referring to these things with a different wording?