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Old 12-01-2005, 03:51 PM
bobbyi bobbyi is offline
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clean up outs

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Huh? You think someone is folding QT on this flop? Or you are are betting specifically hoping someone has JK/ KQ and they don't call with their overcards in this big pot and one of the two cards of the rank you share comes out? Either way, this sounds like a huge stretch.

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and get a free card.

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You can get a free card 100% of the time by checking when you are last to act rather than betting into four people with queen high.
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:05 PM
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i think you can check behind on the flop against 5 players, id probly raise the turn

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With so many cards in the deck that could significantly raise our equity on the turn I think a flop bet is good if it means that the turn will get checked to Hero a good percentage of the time - at which point we can bet for value, or check behind and see a free river card.
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:08 PM
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I say raise.
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:09 PM
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Is this the type of player that can fold a 10 if you raise the turn? If so, I'm calling down in what seems to be WA/WB situation. It's a big pot and you only need to win about 25% of the time to make it profitable.
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:11 PM
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Is this the type of player that can fold a 10 if you raise the turn? If so, I'm calling down in what seems to be WA/WB situation. It's a big pot and you only need to win about 25% of the time to make it profitable.

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wtf?
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:15 PM
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Is this the type of player that can fold a 10 if you raise the turn? If so, I'm calling down in what seems to be WA/WB situation. It's a big pot and you only need to win about 25% of the time to make it profitable.

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wtf?

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I don't get the wtf? If you be a little more specific maybe we can discuss it.
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:20 PM
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Is this the type of player that can fold a 10 if you raise the turn? If so, I'm calling down in what seems to be WA/WB situation. It's a big pot and you only need to win about 25% of the time to make it profitable.

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wtf?

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I don't get the wtf? If you be a little more specific maybe we can discuss it.

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Hero's hand is good about 98% of the time here. This is not a WA/WB situation.

-SmileyEH
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:42 PM
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Is this the type of player that can fold a 10 if you raise the turn? If so, I'm calling down in what seems to be WA/WB situation. It's a big pot and you only need to win about 25% of the time to make it profitable.

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wtf?

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I don't get the wtf? If you be a little more specific maybe we can discuss it.

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Hero's hand is good about 98% of the time here. This is not a WA/WB situation.

-SmileyEH

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98% of the time doesn't constitute way ahead? If he's not ahead, how many outs does he have to take the pot? I like a calldown because when he raises, he loses someone who has at most 5 outs (who probably wouldn't fold with 5 outs anyway). So really, a raise only loses someone with 2 outs.
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:15 PM
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I'd raise the turn. I'm not sure why you bet the flop.
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:20 PM
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I'd raise the turn. I'm not sure why you bet the flop.

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Why would I not bet the flop?
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