Help me out: Black AA face up?

[davidross]

This is a personal preference situation. If AK or another big pair is out there behind you calling or pushing makes no difference, the money will be going in pre-flop 3 or 4 way. I would want to know how much you liked your chances against this bunch, and what the other chip stacks were. My gut is to push here and hope I get 1 more caller. But if the pay structure is such that winning is really the only thing you are conscerned with I would lean towards calling and bringing more customers. You obviously have a better chance of moving up a couple of places by getting heads up here because you can't be eliminated, but you probably won't see another hand like this before the end of the tournament and your chances of tripling or quadrupling are better if you just call. Of course you're chances of going out 9th or 8th go up as well.

[schwza]

glad to see you're posting in mtt again.

[CamelZoo]

Part of my hesitation in getting more than one caller was that I feel very confident at this final table, and was weighing long term EV with winning that tournament that night (i.e Happy doubling up versus quadrupling up but losing 30-50% of the time, etc). In any case I'm going back tomorrow to try again with these thoughts in the back of my mind, discussion has been helpful... I feel it would have been an even more interesting question had I t6000+ not t4200.

[Pat Southern]

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Part of my hesitation in getting more than one caller was that I feel very confident at this final table, and was weighing long term EV with winning that tournament that night (i.e Happy doubling up versus quadrupling up but losing 30-50% of the time, etc). In any case I'm going back tomorrow to try again with these thoughts in the back of my mind, discussion has been helpful... I feel it would have been an even more interesting question had I t6000+ not t4200.

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Nobody is good enough to want to lose customers preflop when they have AA, and anybody who thinks that they can afford to lose customers in order to ensure survival and more +EV situations in the future definately isnt good enough to pass it up. You're overestimating your edge on the field when you have 5 BBs, and underestimating the huge benefit of getting AA allin multiway.

[CamelZoo]

Fair enough, I agree with your post.

As for the other post about flipping the cards up, it would have passed in the sense that my hand would still play (dealer button moves around, players deal, ppl aren't anal) but this would have shut out callers, and I would like a caller or two. I mean, the players are very very bad there in general, but chances of getting more than 2 callers after my all in wouldn't be more than 20%.

[CamelZoo]

Payouts are generally along the lines of:

1-1k
2-700
3-450
4-250
5-100
6-40
789-20

For a $20 buyin 48 ppl unlim rebuy this isn't bad at all considering the quality of play. As far as stacks, mine was maybe 3rd or 4th, with I think 2 ppl left who covered me. At most CL had ~t11k.

PS yes, people rebuy early and often