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Old 12-01-2005, 07:58 PM
Sabrazack Sabrazack is offline
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Simple question, am i ahead here enough to continue with the hand? And if so how.

NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee

Level:1 Blinds(10/15)
Seat 2 is the buttone
Total number of players : 9
Seat 9: HERO ( $775 )
Seat 7: efitz8 ( $920 )
Seat 6: danny313 ( $2045 )
Seat 3: Joel84 ( $665 )
Seat 5: julian2006 ( $520 )
Seat 10: robochimp72 ( $745 )
Seat 4: italianrage ( $800 )
Seat 2: BallDeep007 ( $755 )
Seat 8: billl1018 ( $775 )
Blinds(10/15)

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kd As ]
julian2006 folds.
danny313 raises [30].
efitz8 folds.
billl1018 folds.
HERO calls [30].
robochimp72 folds.
BallDeep007 folds.
Joel84 folds.
italianrage raises [45].
danny313 calls [30].
HERO calls [30].

** Dealing Flop ** [ 7h, Kh, 8d ]
italianrage checks.
danny313 bets [65].
HERO raises [210].
italianrage raises [355].
danny313 folds.
HERO ??
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:08 PM
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i am a noob, but he rr a pfr, maybe i am giving too much credit, but this early, i lay it down.
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:13 PM
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Considering he didn't push, I don't think he is on a draw. I think he has a set. The only thing that leads me to believe no way two pairs is that he reraised preflop, but a weird raise. Tough call, but I would lay it down I think.
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:14 PM
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I would have raised to ~120 preflop.
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:15 PM
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Well, since you called behind with AK pre-flop, you have to push here. That's the point, to trap the weaker kings. Not that I would have played it that way pre-flop.
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:17 PM
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I think you have to put him squarely on AA here to say you're behind.

He RR'd PF. This takes any set except for KK out of his range. (KK is very unlikely obviously bc you have one). So the RR PF puts him in the TT+ AQ+ or so range. The flop looks a lot like AK, or AA.
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:19 PM
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Well, since you called behind with AK pre-flop, you have to push here. That's the point, to trap the weaker kings. Not that I would have played it that way pre-flop.

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Although, now that I look at it again, he made a couple of "I have aces" raises. Who knows at this point. That's why I would have raised it up pre-flop.
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:24 PM
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I think you have to put him squarely on AA here to say you're behind.

He RR'd PF. This takes any set except for KK out of his range.

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It's not like he put in a massive pf raise. He min-3bet. Come on, I don't think you can narrow it down to aces at all here.
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:27 PM
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I think you have to put him squarely on AA here to say you're behind.

He RR'd PF. This takes any set except for KK out of his range.

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It's not like he put in a massive pf raise. He min-3bet. Come on, I don't think you can narrow it down to aces at all here.

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That was my point, it's the slightly-higher-than-minraises that scream out "Aces". But I guess I'm having trouble following the action in the format above. I'll take your word for it.
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:30 PM
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I think you have to put him squarely on AA here to say you're behind.

He RR'd PF. This takes any set except for KK out of his range.

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It's not like he put in a massive pf raise. He min-3bet. Come on, I don't think you can narrow it down to aces at all here.

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Thats not what I said...I said "You'd have to put him ON aces to say you're behind here" because its not a set (99.9%), and TPTK is good on this board against all but aces. He's played it like aces, but it doesnt mean it is. what % of the time he has them here? I think less than half so I'd call.
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